Stirpes  

Go Back   Stirpes > Political & Economical Studies > Politics

Politics Discussions on past and present political theories. Proposals of future political systems and amendments to the ones already in existance, and their application.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)     Quote this post in a PM
Old Friday, September 15th, 2006
Cristoforo's Avatar
Inactive Member
 
Last Online: Sunday, October 28th, 2007 10:58
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Dingli, Malta
Age: 28
Posts: 236
Cristoforo has earned the respect of peers.
Send a message via MSN to Cristoforo
Default Liberal Netherlands Auto-Destructing!

Minister Welcomes Sharia In Netherlands If Majority Wants It THE HAGUE, 13/09/06 - Justice Minister Piet Hein Donner considers the Netherlands should give Muslims more freedoms to behave according to their traditions. Muslims refusing to shake hands is fine with him. And Sharia law could be introduced in the Netherlands democratically, in the minister's view.
Muslims have the right to experience their religion in ways that diverge from Dutch social codes, accordign to the Christian democrat (CDA) minister. He thinks Queen Beatrix was very wise not to insist on a Muslim leader shaking hands with her when she visited his mosque in The Hague earlier this year.
Integration Minister Verdonk did previously scold an imam who would not shake her hand. Without directly referring to this incident, Donner considers "a tone that I do not like has crept into the political debate. A tone of: 'Thou shalt assimilate. Thou shalt adopt our values in public. Be reasonable, do it our way'. That is not my approach".
Donner strongly disagrees with a recent plea by CDA parliamentary leader Maxime Verhagen for a ban on parties seeking to launch Sharia (Islamic law) in the Netherlands. "For me it is clear: if two-thirds of the Dutch population should want to introduce the Sharia tomorrow, then the possibility should exist," according to Donner. "It would be a disgrace to say: 'That is not allowed!'."
Donner makes his remarks in an interview in a book entitled, 'The country of hate and anger' (Het land van haat en nijd). The book was written by journalists Margalith Kleijwegt and Max van Weezel of weekly magazine Vrij Nederland. Minister Verdonk will be presented with the first copy today.


http://www.nisnews.nl/public/130906_2.htm
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)     Quote this post in a PM
Old Saturday, September 16th, 2006
The Flying Dutchman's Avatar
Inactive Member
 
Last Online: Sunday, January 6th, 2008 15:57
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Civatas Frisiavonum
Posts: 58
The Flying Dutchman shows some promise.
Default Re: Liberal Netherlands Auto-Destructing!

Sorry about prevrious post, by mistake i hit the submit bottom already, sorry.

Anyway...


[quote=The Flying Dutchman]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cristoforo
Minister Welcomes Sharia In Netherlands If Majority Wants It
Muslims have the right to experience their religion in ways that diverge from Dutch social codes, accordign to the Christian democrat (CDA) minister. He thinks Queen Beatrix was very wise not to insist on a Muslim leader shaking hands with her when she visited his mosque in The Hague earlier this year.

Yes ok, Muslims have the right to experience thier religion, like any human in the world, that's your right. Muslims can organise gatherings and enjoy their cultural heritage, fine with me.

But for me its stops here, to allow them force Islamic Law in The Netherlands is insane, Mr. Donner has lost it i think.
Muslims, Jews, Buhdists and whatever religion or nationality these immigrants have they MUST live to Dutch Law and rules, i think everybody on this Forum agrees with me on that.

We cannot let Muslims enforce their own Law, Mr. Donner is also forgetting that Islamic Law is based and connected highly on and to religion.

We have already so many religions in The Netherlands, what Mr. Donner ?you want to trow in some different Laws as well ?????? your out of your mind.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)     Quote this post in a PM
Old Saturday, September 16th, 2006
Menydh's Avatar
Southern Charm,
Western Passion
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 15,537
Menydh is a deity.Menydh is a deity.Menydh is a deity.Menydh is a deity.Menydh is a deity.Menydh is a deity.Menydh is a deity.Menydh is a deity.Menydh is a deity.Menydh is a deity.Menydh is a deity.
Default Re: Liberal Netherlands Auto-Destructing!

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Flying Dutchman
Yes ok, Muslims have the right to experience thier religion, like any human in the world, that's your right. Muslims can organise gatherings and enjoy their cultural heritage, fine with me.

But for me its stops here, to allow them force Islamic Law in The Netherlands is insane, Mr. Donner has lost it i think.
Muslims, Jews, Buhdists and whatever religion or nationality these immigrants have they MUST live to Dutch Law and rules, i think everybody on this Forum agrees with me on that.
So long as Spain is concerned, I don't agree with you on that. As far as I am concerned, they must simply go and live their lives somewhere else.
__________________
'Dardanidae duri, quae uos a stirpe parentum
prima tulit tellus, eadem uos ubere laeto
accipiet reduces. Antiquam exquirite matrem:
hic domus Aeneae cunctis dominabitur oris,
et nati natorum, et qui nascentur ab illis.'



We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.

--Plato--
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
None


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Why I am Not a Liberal wilpuri Politics 7 Monday, April 16th, 2007 13:55
Liberal democracy Marulus Politics 0 Wednesday, April 4th, 2007 13:34
Nato's neo-liberal (neo-imperialist) policy in ex-Yugoslavia Crvena zvezda South 2 Friday, March 16th, 2007 19:10
Liberal Christianity is paying for its sins Menydh Religion & Theology 15 Wednesday, January 17th, 2007 21:49

Locations of visitors to this page

All times are GMT. The time now is 14:15.

Page generated in 0.4956779 seconds with 16 queries.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0