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I tell you an other example: One of my sisters dyes her hair in order not to look blond as she thinks it is a shame
I must have said this lots of times. Whatever the reasons your sister sees to dye her hair (black? brunette?), it is just fashion probably influenced by some social event. It happened here decades ago. Only that all the way round.

It all started in the 50s in Spain with the so-called aperture. Spain had lived pretty much isolated. (As the saying goes, it is better to be alone than in bad company.) So at the start the aperture was little more than Northern European tourists coming to Spain to profit from the cheap prices here.

The Catholic Church was powerful in Spain. Women were taught to keep their honour for their future husbands. So having sex outside marriage was a most difficult thing to achieve. But well.. it was all more entertaining.

The first tourists to come to Spain were blonde Scandinavians. If you remember, countries like Sweden were the most liberal at the time. So, Spanish men found easy in these Scandinavian women what they couldn't get with the Spanish women.

There it started the popularity of blonde women here, helped by the images that arrived from Hollywood. Spanish women got somehow confused seeing Spanish men after these blonde foreign women. They didn't understand that it was not the blonde hair that the men were attracted for, but the availability of sex. So, women in Spain started to dye their hair blonde.

Of course this trend has changed much among the later generations. To this day, dying the hair blonde is still seen among young girls but only in the lower classes. Oh.. and among South American Mestizo immigrants. Most striking..

So, I wouldn't worry much about it as it is just a trend that will go away sooner or later.


As for Nordid women dying their hair dark.. it shouldn't work. Light colour hair softens the facial traits, while dark hair works in the opposite direction. While dying the hair blonde on a dark hair woman can work fine because it softens her facial traits, it is most probable that it will work in the opposite direction for a blonde hair woman who dyes her hair dark, as it will harden her facial traits.

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not to mention my other sister marryed a semi-wog...
One confession for another..

I too have a brother who lives with a Brazilian. Apparently she is a light Mulatta. I've said apparently because he won't dare to introduce her to me.

We haven't spoken a word to each other in years. And it is sad to see how he meets rejection in most of our family, especially my sisters. Fortunately even my parents --who are not nationalist but have always been liberal (in the sense of tolerant, not in the political sense of the word)-- have made it clear for him that she is not to enter in the family home.

I never thought that I would hear what I heared from a people as liberal as my parents, especially my mother who is profoundly Catholic yet she has never had a displeasant word or pulled a face of disappointment to any of mine or my brothers' girlfriends or of my sisters' boyfriends. Even when she always made clear that her preference would be a local girl, preferably from a family known to them, yet that she would accept and respect our choice whichever it was. In short, their comment was that they were relieved because they were sure that my brother cannot have children.

It is a drama. And I can understand what a drama it must be to you and to your family. It makes it worse the fact that it is not your brother, but your sister. Or, well.. in my eyes it would have been all the more dramatic if it had been one of my sisters... and the same in the eyes of my parents... I can assure you that the drama would have reached the levels of a tragedy.

Maybe that's more of a Southern European thing though, but I believe that it is right that it is so.
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I can really relate to that story Mynydd, and I do think it is a southern European thing. It can even be seen in much of the media world's protrayal of Southern European family values(remember in the godfather when the man mentioned his daughter married a non-Italian man and everyone almost had a heart attack?)
My aunt is a very well looking woman, she was even a model for some time. For one reason or another, at one point in her life she decided to date an Albanian my grandfather fell ill and was completely sure that his daughter didn't love him anymore. It became difficult for her to stick with this man because the family just gave her rejection and..things just did not look good.
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Actually "Hebrew" is defined by Western scholars as a term applied to Semites, both in terms of language and racial type, who belonged to the nation of Israel prior to the birth of Jesus.
Jews on the other hand consider Hebrews all the descendants of Jacob prior to the writing of the Torah.
Interesting.
It reminds me someone started us calling is Germanics and today we are known under this name. Stil today e.g. English haveing the same ancestors (Angels, Saxons ..) call us "Germans".

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Askhenazi Jews and Shephardic Jews are semites even if they are blonde+blue eyed or dark haired+brown eyed because semite is not only a racial term but also a ethno-linguistic term.
And what's with Germans having converted to Judaism and do not speak another langued than German? Are they Semites as well?

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I remember Noah being the progenitor of Jaffet (Europeans), Cam (Africans), and Sem (Hebrews, Arabs, Asirian and so on).
Interesting. But I rather solicit devil in hell to fart in my face rather than I accept this Jaffet being my ancestor.
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Time later Noah, Abraham is the common father of Arabs and Jews through his sons Ismael and Isaac if my mind doesn't fail.
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I will change it after a while...
Perhaps this will be my next This will scare off those willing to flirt with me via PM - at least this is my hope. (And I added the gender-related mood indicator)
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I must have said this lots of times. Whatever the reasons your sister sees to dye her hair (black? brunette?), it is just fashion probably influenced by some social event. It happened here decades ago. Only that all the way round.
Well, it is not only an occassionally fashion. My sister is fed up with the nickname "blondie" - blondes are suspected to have a low IQ and a high sexual drive here in Germany.
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It all started in the 50s in Spain with the so-called aperture. Spain had lived pretty much isolated. (As the saying goes, it is better to be alone than in bad company.) So at the start the aperture was little more than Northern European tourists coming to Spain to profit from the cheap prices here.

The Catholic Church was powerful in Spain. Women were taught to keep their honour for their future husbands. So having sex outside marriage was a most difficult thing to achieve. But well.. it was all more entertaining.

The first tourists to come to Spain were blonde Scandinavians. If you remember, countries like Sweden were the most liberal at the time. So, Spanish men found easy in these Scandinavian women what they couldn't get with the Spanish women.
I have heared the same story told by an Italian, when millions of blonde German women came to Italy during the "Wirtschaftswunder" period.
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There it started the popularity of blonde women here, helped by the images that arrived from Hollywood. Spanish women got somehow confused seeing Spanish men after these blonde foreign women. They didn't understand that it was not the blonde hair that the men were attracted for, but the availability of sex. So, women in Spain started to dye their hair blonde.

Of course this trend has changed much among the later generations. To this day, dying the hair blonde is still seen among young girls but only in the lower classes. Oh.. and among South American Mestizo immigrants. Most striking..

So, I wouldn't worry much about it as it is just a trend that will go away sooner or later.


As for Nordid women dying their hair dark.. it shouldn't work. Light colour hair softens the facial traits, while dark hair works in the opposite direction. While dying the hair blonde on a dark hair woman can work fine because it softens her facial traits, it is most probable that it will work in the opposite direction for a blonde hair woman who dyes her hair dark, as it will harden her facial traits.

One confession for another..

I too have a brother who lives with a Brazilian. Apparently she is a light Mulatta. I've said apparently because he won't dare to introduce her to me.

We haven't spoken a word to each other in years. And it is sad to see how he meets rejection in most of our family, especially my sisters. Fortunately even my parents --who are not nationalist but have always been liberal (in the sense of tolerant, not in the political sense of the word)-- have made it clear for him that she is not to enter in the family home.

I never thought that I would hear what I heared from a people as liberal as my parents, especially my mother who is profoundly Catholic yet she has never had a displeasant word or pulled a face of disappointment to any of mine or my brothers' girlfriends or of my sisters' boyfriends. Even when she always made clear that her preference would be a local girl, preferably from a family known to them, yet that she would accept and respect our choice whichever it was. In short, their comment was that they were relieved because they were sure that my brother cannot have children.

It is a drama. And I can understand what a drama it must be to you and to your family. It makes it worse the fact that it is not your brother, but your sister. Or, well.. in my eyes it would have been all the more dramatic if it had been one of my sisters... and the same in the eyes of my parents... I can assure you that the drama would have reached the levels of a tragedy.

Maybe that's more of a Southern European thing though, but I believe that it is right that it is so.
No, it is not only a (Catholic) South European thing. My very leftist-liberal mother was not pleased with whom my sister marryed. And when she got pregant with me my grandma was afraid I could be a little negro....


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Today many Swedes come to Spain because gay marriage is allowed there.
One time a Swdish girl told me one reason why girls choose a negro is because they are more "macho", and she was disappointed this many handsome Swedish guys are gay.
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Today many Swedes come to Spain because gay marriage is allowed there.
One time a Swdish girl told me one reason why girls choose a negro is because they are more "macho", and she was disappointed this many handsome Swedish guys are gay.
This is actually very true. For some reason, many nations in Europe have been plagued with this male homosexuality which is just disgusting and innapropiate. I think that due to all the guilt, men have become weak and very feminine. It's depressing.
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Well, it is not only an occassionally fashion. My sister is fed up with the nickname "blondie" - blondes are suspected to have a low IQ and a high sexual drive here in Germany.
Ah.. that thing. Well, blame it on Americans then. It is Americans who spread the myth that blondes are stupid, with their stupid films.

We don't have that myth here.

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I have heared the same story told by an Italian, when millions of blonde German women came to Italy during the "Wirtschaftswunder" period.
I'm not sure about Italy, but here it was all about Summer affairs. Few of those affairs developed into something more serious. At the end of the day, the Spanish men only considered a good Spanish woman for being the mother of their children.

Most if not all of the people mixed of German and Spanish that I know are, on the contrary, of a German father and a Spanish mother. The majority because the father was a German refugee and on a few other cases the mother was a Spanish returnee.

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No, it is not only a (Catholic) South European thing. My very leftist-liberal mother was not pleased with whom my sister marryed. And when she got pregant with me my grandma was afraid I could be a little negro....
It is in fact a "little negro".

A guy I know married one of these light Mulatto Brazilians. They have a child, who looks one degree less Negroid than the mother.. until you look at the form of the crania. The child goes to the same school than the child of a friend of mine. This friend of mine's wife (by the way, of a German father), once told me that the Brazilian had said to her that she had been suggested by the school board to take the child to a special educator, because he was lagging behind the rest of the children.

I am talking of a 4 year old child then. Too young to lag behind unless there is a special reason for it.

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Today many Swedes come to Spain because gay marriage is allowed there.
I'm not sure about that. But it could be right.

The profile of the Northern and Central European in Spain has changed dramatically. During the Wirtschaftswunder years they were just tourists. In the following two decades or so the tourists were joined by a new profile, those who came here to buy a property to make of Spain their place of retirement. Since the last decade a new profile is that of young people moving to live and work here looking forward to the Spanish way of life. These no longer see Spain as a place where life is pleasant as well as cheaper. For one thing, Spain is no longer cheaper and they live on local salaries.

I have posted the official percentage figures of some Central European nationals living in Spain. Mainly English, Germans and Dutch. As a group together, I believe that they make up the second or third largest group of foreign immigrants in Spain.

The Scandinavians keep coming too. But they are relatively fewer and they keep a lower profile.

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One time a Swdish girl told me one reason why girls choose a negro is because they are more "macho", and she was disappointed this many handsome Swedish guys are gay.
Most probably she was just giving a cheap excuse for being a bitch.

Fortunately seeing a Spanish girl with a Negro is still not a normal case. And the few that I have seen are ugly and fat bitches who would be very lucky if a circus dwarf spent one night with them.

I wouldn't waste my time with explaining to them why it is wrong. I would simply demand that they are consequent with her choice and go to live to a hut in Africa with him.

It was the feminists in Northern European countries who forced a sense of guilt on men for being men. And now, when they have screwed it, they complain and call them gays? That's sick.

Those whores should be told loud that, while the European men have literally worked themselves to death through the millenia to provide a secure and comfortable home for them, the African men have been scratching their asses on the top of a tree while their women and children starved to death.
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I remember Noah being the progenitor of Jaffet (Europeans), Cam (Africans), and Sem (Hebrews, Arabs, Asirian and so on).
Interesting. But I rather solicit devil in hell to fart in my face rather than I accept this Jaffet being my ancestor.
It is not that clear which group(s) the Bible identifies with the Hamites (in English it is Ham and Hamite, not Cam and Camite). But very unlikely with Negroid Africans. See this definition:
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Hamites, African people of caucasoid descent who occupy the Horn of Africa (chiefly Somalia and Ethiopia), the western Sahara, and parts of Algeria and Tunisia. They are believed to be the original settlers of N Africa. The Hamitic cradleland is generally agreed to be in Asia—perhaps S Arabia or possibly an area farther east. The Hamites entered Africa in a long succession of migrations, of which the earliest may have been as far back as the end of the pluvial period. They are commonly divided into two great branches, Eastern and Northern. The Eastern Hamites comprise the ancient and modern Egyptians, the Beja, the Berberines, the Oromo, the Somali, the Danakil, and most Ethiopians. The Northern Hamites include the Berbers Berbers, aboriginal Caucasoid peoples of N Africa, called Imazighen in the Tamazight language. They inhabit the lands lying between the Sahara and the Mediterranean Sea and between Egypt and the Atlantic Ocean. The Berbers of Cyrenaica, Tripolitania, Tunisia, and Algeria; the Berbers of Morocco; the Touareg and Tibu of the Sahara; the Fulbe of the Western Sudan; and the extinct Guanche of the Canary Islands.
What is not clear to me is if they are an early break-up branch of a proto-Europid group, or a different of their own, different to all big others.
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The only europid-negro pair I saw on the Canaries was from England. And the woman was not attractive at all. Anyway, being not attractive is not an excuse. The worst thing, they were with their perfectly black children. Lucky for Canarians, they were just tourists.
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If I understand clearly, Nordicism was initially a kind of eugenic theory, Nordids were supposed to have mental traits which put Nordids in the front rank of historical development of mankind, which make Nordids ‘an edge’ of progress, right? It may be at least partially true, and if I were sure about it I would readily accept Nordicism as state policy without even being Nordid. Eugenics is a necessary thing, no doubt, but at present it isn’t okay to limit it to measuring of crania. (It’s XXI century at the moment by the way.)

But I think this theory might be useful even now, to select refugees for instance.

- Do you want to become a citizen of our country?
- Yes.
- Have you got blue eyes?
- No.
- Have you got blond hair?
- No.
- Is your cranial index 0,75 or less?
- No.
- No?! Go home to your dear Africa onto your palm then.

(Sorry for occasional racism.)

Unfortunately it is more correct now to use the term ‘Nordicism’ not as the name of a racist (eugenic) theory, but as the name of a strange kind of mental disease. What a pity.
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What excactly does it mean to be nordid according to you Whiteruthenian?
I mean, there is many blondes in my family and a few have blue eyes, but I don't think they would consider themselves nordids. I think it's not so bright to claim that just because someone has blond hair and blue eyes they are destined to achieve greatness in their life time. I know plenty of people who are blond and blue eyed but they are actually of mixed race and aren't so high up on the social ladder.
This can be seen in America as well, there is plenty Americans who are blond haired and blue eyed who are poor or just not very bright at all.
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What excactly does it mean to be nordid according to you Whiteruthenian?
To be honest I’m hopeless at those things. As far as I know a Nordid person should be tall, should have a narrow face and narrow skull, light eyes and light hair.

At least such a description I read in the Soviet Encyclopedic Dictionary.
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Default Re: On Nordo-Germanic supremacism (comments)

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Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour
One time a Swdish girl told me one reason why girls choose a negro is because they are more "macho", and she was disappointed this many handsome Swedish guys are gay.
This is actually very true. For some reason, many nations in Europe have been plagued with this male homosexuality which is just disgusting and innapropiate. I think that due to all the guilt, men have become weak and very feminine. It's depressing.
That's true.
Just one example : perhaps six months ago, in Esplanade (a Strasbourg's big district where I liv