On Nordo-Germanic supremacism (comments)

[Breogan]

On the other hand.
I think we must always distinguish between the "two types" of nordicism.
Forget about the angloUSA-trash term, there is nothing to discuss here (sorry I'm repeating); many have already said it: it's just an upside-down afrocentrism. Just remember Rockwell chosing his motto "white power", just imitating his negro "country-fellows" with their "black power". Is it not delirant?

I would like to support Nordicism, understood as the preservation of one subracial type of caucasian people; but without any more reason, not because they are better than other non-nordic European people and so on.
It's a fact blond people are vanishing, and just nordic people can stop that.
What is inmoral in this? Besides I fight for the preservation of my own people, How could I oppose to others just making the same thing than they do?

I know there is a problem in separating one subracial type from its country, because, for example, two cultured German people-one nordic and one alpine-would have more in common than two nordid people-one cultured German and one American fan of Arthur Kemp. Right?

I see certain contradiction here, it's good preservation of subtypes, but I think between some limits like common heritage. What do you think about this?

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Breogan

Aptrganga, why don't you or the admins, please, remove the disgusting pics you have posted?

I agree that they are disgusting to see, but people should face reality and not ignore it by sweeping it under the carpet.

Originally Posted by Breogan

I think we must always distinguish between the "two types" of nordicism.
Forget about the angloUSA-trash term, there is nothing to discuss here (sorry I'm repeating); many have already said it: it's just an upside-down afrocentrism. Just remember Rockwell chosing his motto "white power", just imitating his negro "country-fellows" with their "black power". Is it not delirant?

Indeed there is a concern of Nordic preservationism which is a noble ideal.

But what we are discussing here is the pseudo-construct of Nordo-Germanic supremacism promoted by Skadi and which was merely based upon the gratuitous and vicious denigration and slandering of all other peoples of Europe.

It is not as simple and clear as Anglo-American ignorant trash involved in it, but also German.

Due to the obvious relation of the word Nordic with Scandinavian, I should insist once more that Scandinavians are rarely involved in these issues. In fact Scandinavians seem to have a very clear vision of what reality is and have no problems with identifying their real concerns. Nordic supremacism, as a matter of fact, had its origins among Anglo-Saxons and it was later ideologized by Germans.

One result of this ideologization of Nordic supremacism was the German Lebensborn, and its result was that after the invasion of the Scandinavian countries by Germany the people rejected the children product of the Lebensborn. Naturally as it would be expected from a proud people, even when the the children product of this programme would be the last to be blamed.

So, if Germans prefer to ally with their Anglo-American cousins, deceptioning as it may be, they have the right to do so but they have no right whatsoever to make up for their own insecurity by attacking Europeans through deception.

I would like to support Nordicism

ditto

It's a fact blond people are vanishing, and just nordic people can stop that.

When I think of Nordic preservationism I picture the native people of Scandinavia, their culture, their ways of life, their society, ... some are blonde and other brunette or even black haired.

I don't know if blondism is in retreat over there. It is not over here. It was more or less alien here and it was imported by the Goths, the Suebi and the Vandals. It was imported again in the South through Germans and Dutch peasant settlers during the rule of Emperor Carlos. And, again, it is being imported during the last decades by Germans-English-Dutch as well as Northern Europeans who decide to settle here to live.

In the same fashion, should I see this as a threat to our ancient native hair types? The only threat I see is one of ethno-cultural implications and incompatibility by the massive G-E-D group.

What is inmoral in this? Besides I fight for the preservation of my own people, How could I oppose to others just making the same thing than they do?

Just remember that being Nordic Scandinavian is not strictly about having blonded hair.

[Breogan]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Nordic supremacism, as a matter of fact, had its origins among Anglo-Saxons and it was later ideologized by Germans.

I suppose you are talking about Chamberlain and his nazi fellows. Nazism importated the idea from Britain.
It's curious, as you say, how this matter was born in UK and not in Scandinavia, being this place more nordic than Britain. I wonder if this is related to the earlier alliance between Britain and Jewish-masonry, since Disraeli times, or even earlier, if you prefer, with Cromwell...
Brits took the jewish concept of "chosen people" according to their jewish country-fellows teachings.
Being the chosen people by God; of course the rest of people would be just goyim, even not human.

Originally Posted by Mynydd

So, if Germans prefer to ally with their Anglo-American cousins, deceptioning as it may be, they have the right to do so but they have no right whatsoever to make up for their own insecurity by attacking Europeans through deception.

I think this is influence of American way of life, even on these matters. The situation in Britain described above was copied later on USA since May-Flower times. The "chosen people" got their promised land and so on.

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Just remember that being Nordic Scandinavian is not strictly about having blonded hair.

I know, I know; one needs more things to be nordic since a physical anthropological point of view.
And then it comes the genotipe considerations, cultural,...

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Breogan

I suppose you are talking about Chamberlain and his nazi fellows. Nazism importated the idea from Britain.

That's right.

It's curious, as you say, how this matter was born in UK and not in Scandinavia, being this place more nordic than Britain.

Or how it grew roots in Germany and not in Scandinavia, being Nordid mostly an element of admixture in Germany.

I wonder if this is related to the earlier alliance between Britain and Jewish-masonry, since Disraeli times, or even earlier, if you prefer, with Cromwell...
Brits took the jewish concept of "chosen people" according to their jewish country-fellows teachings.
Being the chosen people by God; of course the rest of people would be just goyim, even not human.

There is much of it coming through Calvinism. In England, Puritanism. And although Lutheranism is not judaicized as Puritanism, in Northern Germany Lutheranism was strongly influenced by Calvinism.

Also, notice how there are sects in the New World derived from Calvinism which go as far as considering themselves "the lost tribe". Most curious is some Evangelical sect in the US which admits Jews being the Chosen People.

[svin]

Most curious is some Evangelical sect in the US which admits Jews being the Chosen People.

There are also Christian Identity followers. They believe that modern jews are not true jews.

[Whiteruthenian]

Originally Posted by Breogan

I would like to support Nordicism, understood as the preservation of one subracial type of caucasian people; but without any more reason, not because they are better than other non-nordic European people and so on.

100% support

As for me I don’t’ care about the theories of the comrades from Skadi. I will sincerely believe in superiority of these European peoples who will win struggle for existence. I hate to be a prophet, but it seems in, say, ?0 years there will be only two kind of states in Europe – islamic ones and fascist ones. So in ?0 years the question on Nordo-Germanic supremacy will be solved, because it is obvious that in ?0 years Untermenschen-subhumans will live in islamic states and Uebermenschen-superhumans in fascist ones. A quite simple test for superiority for European nations, isn’t it?

[Gil]

Originally Posted by svin

There are also Christian Identity followers. They believe that modern jews are not true jews.

How come? Modern semites are indeed jews while ancient semites were hebrews, the difference being that the hebrews never left their land in the "Diaspora".

[Strengthandhonour]

Originally Posted by Whiteruthenian

100% support

As for me I don’t’ care about the theories of the comrades from Skadi. I will sincerely believe in superiority of these European peoples who will win struggle for existence. I hate to be a prophet, but it seems in, say, ?0 years there will be only two kind of states in Europe – islamic ones and fascist ones. So in ?0 years the question on Nordo-Germanic supremacy will be solved, because it is obvious that in ?0 years Untermenschen-subhumans will live in islamic states and Uebermenschen-superhumans in fascist ones. A quite simple test for superiority for European nations, isn’t it?

I am not sure how accurate your prophecy will be. It's hard to imagine Europe being placed in such a black and white situation. And I don't think I agree with everyone that lives in a Islamic state is scum. You can say many European cities are almost Islamic as a whole now, would you be willing to say that the people who are European and live in this city are scum?

[Whiteruthenian]

Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour

I am not sure how accurate your prophecy will be. It's hard to imagine Europe being placed in such a black and white situation. And I don't think I agree with everyone that lives in a Islamic state is scum. You can say many European cities are almost Islamic as a whole now, would you be willing to say that the people who are European and live in this city are scum?

Sorry for simplifying. Old uncle Nietsche said once, 'It should be pushed that is going to fall'. The tragicomedy is that now it are us who is going to fall. So if a European nation finds powers within itself to fight down the present European decadence it will prove its superiority and that that nation 'shouldn't be pushed'. If a European nation doesn't find those powers it will prove that it's time for it to leave the historical arena. But I do believe in the European awakening and I'm glad to live in the times of this awakening.

[Aptrgangr]

Originally Posted by Gil

How come? Modern semites are indeed jews while ancient semites were hebrews, the difference being that the hebrews never left their land in the "Diaspora".

The term Semite originates from Sem Ben Noah (Sem, Son of Noah). Arabs name him Sam Ibn Nuh. Both, Jews and Arabs consider him as progenitor. In fact today's Jews are not necessarily Semites any more, especially those living in Europe. But those never having left Palestinia/Israel most definitely are Semites - I am not sure, but Hebrews are an ethnicity but a group of people speaking Hebrew.

[Gil]

Originally Posted by Aptrganga

The term Semite originates from Sem Ben Noah (Sem, Son of Noah). Arabs name him Sam Ibn Nuh. Both, Jews and Arabs consider him as progenitor. In fact today's Jews are not necessarily Semites any more, especially those living in Europe. But those never having left Palestinia/Israel most definitely are Semites - I am not sure, but Hebrews are an ethnicity but a group of people speaking Hebrew.

Actually "Hebrew" is defined by Western scholars as a term applied to Semites, both in terms of language and racial type, who belonged to the nation of Israel prior to the birth of Jesus.
Jews on the other hand consider Hebrews all the descendants of Jacob prior to the writing of the Torah.

Askhenazi Jews and Shephardic Jews are semites even if they are blonde+blue eyed or dark haired+brown eyed because semite is not only a racial term but also a ethno-linguistic term.

[Breogan]

Originally Posted by Aptrganga

The term Semite originates from Sem Ben Noah (Sem, Son of Noah). Arabs name him Sam Ibn Nuh. Both, Jews and Arabs consider him as progenitor. In fact today's Jews are not necessarily Semites any more, especially those living in Europe. But those never having left Palestinia/Israel most definitely are Semites - I am not sure, but Hebrews are an ethnicity but a group of people speaking Hebrew.

I remember Noah being the progenitor of Jaffet (Europeans), Cam (Africans), and Sem (Hebrews, Arabs, Asirian and so on)

Time later Noah, Abraham is the common father of Arabs and Jews through his sons Ismael and Isaac if my mind doesn't fail.

Btw Aptrganga, I like your new avatar, please don't change it ; you know how to improve avatars indeed

[svin]

It's a fact blond people are vanishing, and just nordic people can stop that.

Not true.
Some regions where Baltids and East-Baltids dominate are even blonder.

[Truth-Finder]

Originally Posted by svin

Not true.
Some regions where Baltids and East-Baltids dominate are even blonder.

Well this brings us back to the controversy of blodness recesiveness ... It just makes wander that if keltic-nordic phaenotype is considered as hallstadt nordic which absorbed dinaric elements...now dinaric being a dark phenotype, if recesiveness rule was strictely true wouldn't most of today keltic-nordics be dark eyed brunets?? but this is not the topic to be discused here
regards