ATHAENEUM-"The White World's Future"

[kurwenal]

PRESS RELEASE OF THE INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE
"THE WHITE WORLD'S FUTURE"
Moscow, June 8-10, 2006 Based on the initiative of the Russian international magazine ATHENAEUM and the Russian EUROPEAN SYNERGY Centre, an international conference, "THE WHITE WORLD'S FUTURE", was held in Moscow, June 8 - 10, 2006. The conference had both scientific and practical natures and was dedicated to the common roots, traditions and contemporary problems faced by the White world, and their possible solutions.
The conference was held at the assembly hall of the International Fund for Slavic Literature and Culture (Chernigovsky Pereulok, 9/13), according to the rules of accreditation declared in advance. The conference was coordinated and hosted by Pavel Tulaev. In two days, the following reports were delivered:
June 8, 2006
1. "Requiem or Reconquista?" by Anatoly Ivanov (Russia).
2. "From Geopolitics to Ethnopolitics. New Notion of Eurosiberia: The Main Historical Role of Russia" by Guillaume Faye (France).
3. "Strategy for the New Culture" by Pierre Krebs (Germany).
4. "North-South Struggle: The Clash of Civilizations" by Pierre Vial (France).
5. "Hygiene of the European Thought" by Vladimir Avdeyev (Russia).
6. "The White World and Mondialization" by Jose Maria Alvarez (Spain).
7. "Our Fight for Our Race and Our Future" by David Duke (USA).

June 9, 2006
1. "Our Future State according to the Indo-European Traditions" by Jan-Ber Tillenon (Breizh).
2. "Native Faith in the New Renaissance: Its Place and Role" by Galyna Lozko (Ukraine).
3. "ARMA - for Aryan Identity and Racial Spirit" by Eleftherios Ballas (Greece).
4. "European Heritage and Uncertain Future" by Enrique Ravello (Spain).
5. "The Danger of Turkish Mass Immigration and Turkey's Membership in the EU" by Gerhoch Reisegger (Austria).
6. "White Eurasia: Biopolitics versus Geopolitics" by Constantin von Hoffmeister (Germany).
7. "Europe and Russia in the Context of World War IV" by Pavel Tulaev (Russia). The delegates who were to be present but could not attend for various reasons had authorized their representatives to deliver their reports:
1. "Towards a New Renaissance: Humanism, Spirituality and the Future" by Barbara Krieger (Poland)
2. "New Paleolith as a Future for Europe" by Silvano Lorenzoni (Italy).
3. "Why do We oppose NATO?" by Robert Steuckers (Belgium).
4. "Metapolitical Front of the White Movement" by Anton Rachev (Bulgaria).
Friendly greetings of the following prominent and respective people have been heard: salutary speech of Alexander Sevastianov, the leader of NDPR; salutary speech of Alexander Ivanov, the leader of NNP (delivered by Alexey Shiropayev); salutary speeches by Vladimir Ivanov, Alexander Rudakov, Yury Ivanov, Valery Milovanov and others. The host has also familiarized the audience with salutations from different countries.
Alongside speeches, new publications by the delegates have been introduced, as well as new editions of the "Athenaeum" and "SLAVA" publishing house.
On June 9, at the House of Slavic Music (Taganskaya, 40), a ceremonial evening party took place in which the delegates, alongside our friends and numerous guests, took part. It opened with a concert of classical and modern music performed by the Russian National Academic Orchestra "Boyan", directed by the national artist of Russia and the USSR, Professor Anatoly Poletayev. The vocal turns were performed by the soloists Kuliushkina, Krylov and Ermakova. Great musical compositions of European classical composers, such as Glinka, Grieg, Strauss, Chaikovsky and Rachmaninov, as well as patriotic anthems by Poletayev, were welcomed with cheers.
Right after the concert, the delegates were invited onto the stage and had a chance to address the audience with brief salutary speeches. The delegates spoke about the importance of White unity in the modern world. After the salutary speeches, a dinner party took place.
An excursion to the Tretyakov Gallery was organized for the delegates on June 10, 2006 to acquaint the guests with masterpieces of Russian art. As a conclusion, the delegates visited the museum of Konstantin Vasiliev, where they were welcomed by Anatoly Doronin.

The same night at the museum, the final meeting of twelve of the delegates took place, during which the achievements of the conference were summed up. Each of the delegates had a chance to speak in a circle, to give one's view on ideological and practical points, to subject some of the points to criticism or to offer assistance. As a conclusion of this discussion (led by Pavel Tulaev), it has been decided:
- to consider the WWF Conference, that has become an historical event, to be accomplished successfully.
- to publish the reports of the delegates and other relevant information, both in the source languages and translated into Russian.
- to hold the White Forum annually and to organize the next conference in one of the Slavic countries.
- to invite the delegates, that could not come to Moscow in June 2006, to a seminar of Athenaeum in the Crimea (September 2006).
- to study possible options of opening an international school for young people.
- to establish contacts and interchange of information via the Internet and to create a system of Web sites.
A discussion of the final declaration of the conference, prepared by Anatoly Ivanov in Russian and French, also took place. After the discussion, the final declaration, in which the necessity of collaboration and creating a new international union is proclaimed, was signed by: Anatoly Ivanov (Russia), Vladimir Avdeyev (Russia), Pavel Tulaev (Russia), Galyna Lozko (Ukraine), Pierre Vial (France), Guillaume Faye (France), Jan-Ber Tillenon (Breizh), Pierre Krebs (Germany), Constantin von Hoffmeister (Germany), Enrique Ravello (Spain), Eleftherios Ballas (Greece).
The declaration will be published in the press, as well as on the Web site of Athenaeum www.ateney.ru right after its translation into the primary European languages.
The face of Athena, the common European goddess of wisdom and just war, has been selected as a symbol of our union. A slogan, "WHITES OF THE WORLD - UNITE!", has been selected as a motto.
The organizers want to thank all the participants of the conference, as well as those who rendered assistance.

Press Release prepared by the Organizing Committee in Moscow, June 2006
Translated by Maxim Kalt, June 15, 2006 ©

The web-page of ATHENAEUM in different European languages:
http://www.ateney.ru/eng/eng011.htm#c

[Menydh]

The conference sounds interesting and many of the speakers are excellent. However, a shame that it is shadowed by the presence of that yankee David Duke and conference titles of such mediocrity as "ARMA - for Aryan Identity and Racial Spirit" or "Metapolitical Front of the White Movement".

[kurwenal]

This is the text of David Duke's conference:

http://www.davidduke.com/?p=554

You'll see it's not that bad. And he's not a yankee, but a Southerner from Louisiana.

[Menydh]

First, from what I understand that press release should not have been made public in first place, but wait for the other participants to release it at the same time.

Second, some didn't know that David Duke was taking part in it and found out once there.

Question: what has an intelectual European movement like that of the Identitarians have to do with an American White Nationalist?

I'll tell you. Next to nothing. And it is in fact detrimental for European Identitarians to be related to American WNs.

Why? Simply, because among some other things WN is the antithesis of anything intelectual. And a road to nowhere and with no future. The day that Nationalists in Europe have to resort to WN, the day that we will know that we have lost even the hope.


P.S. oh wait, in some countries they are already resorting to that.

[kurwenal]

I don't see a contradiction in it. For me "white" nationalism is the ouside cocoon that comprise the EU, Russia,EEUU, Latin America,Australia,New Zealand,etc...Each of these areas represent a part of the same biocultural unit: European civilization created by the white men of Europe, same origin, same culture and, like it or not, same destiny and same threats. As a concept, "white nationalism" should not prevent Europe from developing a strong nationalist policy, likewise in Russia. In fact, the ideal situation should be, as Nietzsche suggested, a planet where man is master over nature, Europe is master of the world and the best are masters in Europe.

As an European I understand it is fastidious that the show is now run from the EEUU, and for both Americans and Europeans, that the show in the EEUU is run by the Judeoplutocracy. It is actually up to the Europeans of Europe to retake the position of command that should correspond to them-well, only if they have enough will to power ,that's it-. In the meantime I don't see the harm of a David Duke exposing the nefarious influences of the jewish parasites within American society and trying to retake the control of the country that was once theirs.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by kurwenal

I don't see a contradiction in it. For me "white" nationalism is the ouside cocoon that comprise the EU, Russia,EEUU, Latin America,Australia,New Zealand,etc...

Not bad. In fact only one or two steps below the United Nations.

Another coincidence is that neither "white nationalism" nor the "united nations" have anything to do with the true notion of nation, nor with true Nationalism.

Each of these areas represent a part of the same biocultural unit: European civilization created by the white men of Europe

Since you are obviouly an American, you speak like one and can only reach an American audience. Like all of you Americans. I'll show you:

"[...] the white men of Europe" is..."

In Europe there is no other men that belong here. So speaking of the "white man of Europe" is an americanization of the reality (in other words, a distortion).

In America, yes. There is a "white man of America", a "black man of America", a "brown man of America", and more and anything in between. And, as it happens, they all have in common that they are Americans. Meaning too that they share some sub-cultural affinity. Something that in Europe I have only seen in Britain (the effects of holding to imperialist and multiculturalist "british-ism" instead of nationalism), but I don't see with Turks in Germany, Algerians in France, or Moroccans in Spain.. mind you... not even Hispano-American Indians and Mestizos in Spain!

We have no need for such mess here. In Europe, it is your national ethnicity that makes you an European. So, either you are completely, or you are not at all. As simple and straight as that.

same origin, same culture and, like it or not

No, I do not like it. I do not like it because, like the vast majority of Europeans, I consider Americans a highly uncultured people. In fact the antithesis of what Europeans are, except for whatever this mondialized society has made of us by stripping us off parts of our culture and identity. Only there we are culturally like Americans. Or like Asians or Africans for tha matter.

same destiny

I pray God that you are wrong, because the fate of America is to become a Mestizo continent. It is only natural.

and same threats.

Wrong too. America is a threat to Europe. Ok, it may also be a threat to itself, but that is a part of the American psyche.

Further, no one in his right mind would dare argue that the vanishing of America into a Mestizo continent is anything comparable to the vanishing of Europe.

As a concept, "white nationalism" should not prevent Europe from developing a strong nationalist policy, likewise in Russia.

Let us be honest here, shall we? [American] "white nationalists" are nothing but a bunch of skinheads and other assorted marginals of the so-called white trash Americans. Since I started to know of American WNs that I've grown a strong elitist feeling accompanied by a profound scorn like you cannot imagine. Ever. Call me a supremacist if you will.

The contact of these pariahs with European Nationalists is a disgrace for Nationalism and ultimately for Europe.

Since you seem to speak in terms of biogenetics (in line with David Duke, as I've seen in his paper), I am sure that you must be aware that within a same genetic group there is a genetically more gifted people and other less gifted. And anything in between. What derives from observing American white nationalism is that it is dysgenic.

Thus, I'm not surprised that David Duke has made his way into that conference in order to obtain a convenient picture together with people of the intelectual level --whether I agree with his thesis or not-- like Guillaume Faye.

In fact, the ideal situation should be, as Nietzsche suggested, a planet where man is master over nature, Europe is master of the world and the best are masters in Europe.

Absolutely. And.. where are the American white nationalists in this picture?

As an European I understand it is fastidious that the show is now run from the EEUU, and for both Americans and Europeans, that the show in the EEUU is run by the Judeoplutocracy. It is actually up to the Europeans of Europe to retake the position of command that should correspond to them-well, only if they have enough will to power ,that's it-. In the meantime I don't see the harm of a David Duke exposing the nefarious influences of the jewish parasites within American society and trying to retake the control of the country that was once theirs.

I could expand on Duke, white nationalist American, Stormfront, and a few other related subjects, to make you see where the harm is. But then I might be saying more things that you might not find convenient, or even pleasant.

Take your chance.

[yllica]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Why? Simply, because among some other things WN is the antithesis of anything intelectual. And a road to nowhere and with no future. The day that Nationalists in Europe have to resort to WN, the day that we will know that we have lost even the hope.

A single WNism is not appropriate for us in Europe, but why should the principle of nationalism be denied to white Americans? Clearly there is a sense of distinct (racialised) peoplehood among many white Americans – even more so among Blacks and Indians – and for all three it's generations old and has been recognised officially for the whole of American history, and remains so today.

That (white) America is a young nation, or formed from a more than usual number of disparate groups is no reason to deny the principle of self-rule, or to refuse to recognise a commonly held group identity. And I have precisely the same amount of confidence for American WNism as I do for a European nationalist renaissance because the challenges and the chances of success are pretty much identical.

Including an American WNist leader in a conference on "THE WHITE WORLD'S FUTURE" is perfectly appropriate in my book. Especially if like me you choose to define WNism as nationalism for peoples who happen to be white, and believe there is a white 'American' people.

[Menydh]

Why deny the principle of nationalism to white Americans? What about because neither White nor American is a nationality? Whiteism is a very louse concept based on a too broad definition level of race. Not to do with nation. To the eyes of an European, the bonds between Blacks, Whites and other races and mixes in America, are more visible than those of a supposed whiteism. That is how America was conformed in its conception: Anglo-Saxons, Germans, Italians, Scandinavians, Greeks, ... Jews, they all kept apart from each other under Anglo-Saxon American group hegemony without conforming one single identity. This single identity would only come later and not with only those groups, but also with Black Mulattoes, Mestizos, and other Americans.

In a far future that process might come to a stable point whereby you may call it a nation. The American Nation. A nation of Mestizos/Mulattoes that is.

Originally Posted by yllica

That (white) America is a young nation, or formed from a more than usual number of disparate groups is no reason to deny the principle of self-rule, or to refuse to recognise a commonly held group identity.

There is no such group identity. Or, if there is, it is too weak and louse to be of any consequence whatsoever. Besides, the All American identity is stronger than that of White American.

And I have precisely the same amount of confidence for American WNism as I do for a European nationalist renaissance because the challenges and the chances of success are pretty much identical.

And I hope that you are wrong, because that would mean that we are doomed to fail in Europe. American White Nationalism is as marginal as it can get and it has zero chances to grow to a level of minimum significance.

America is not divided into races, but into social classes. White Nationalism in America targets the so-called White Trash America. This is not like the European working class, but the sector of the disenfranchised of the American people. "Les miserables". If they wished to make a hit in a far future they would have to focus on the Middle Classes instead. But, at large, the American middle class is highly unlikely to be willing to be identified with the White Trash America. They feel more identified with their Black neighbour who happens to have a similar income (even if he got his job through a positive discrimination or affirmative action programme) and consequently he shares with them the common American identity: the American life style.

Including an American WNist leader in a conference on "THE WHITE WORLD'S FUTURE" is perfectly appropriate in my book. Especially if like me you choose to define WNism as nationalism for peoples who happen to be white, and believe there is a white 'American' people.

Firstly, out of consistency with me being a nationalist I don't choose to define White Nationalism as nationalism, but simply as a parody of a disoriented, disenfranchised people.

Secondly, and most important, I firmly believe that including an American White Nationalist in a European conference (or relating to American White Nationalists anywhere) is most inappropriate for the reasons which follow.

Nationalism in Europe is a just cause to defend ourselves against the ethnocide of the various native ethnicities, cultures, spiritualities, identities, societies. It is clear beyond any reasonable doubt that American White Nationalism does not fit under this scheme.

If native Europeans fade into a Mestizo people, all our identities vanish and this would be a tragedy of unparalleled magnitude. Not only because of the loss in human diversity, but also of the intrinsec high values of such identities for Mankind. If White Americans fade into a Mestizo people they loose the white part of their identity (i.e. the weakest part of it), but they still keep the most important part of it which is being Americans. If they want to be called a nation, that is the only way to go.

Of no less importance is the negative effect that mixing European Nationalists with American Whiteists. American WNs are well aware that they stand no chance whatsoever and all they do is engaging in lunacies which would embarass any decent person. Their message is of hatred and ignorance all of the time. Their lack of identity takes them to predate on European identities on the basis of a badly understood heritage that their ancestors lost long ago to their new American identity.

You only have to look at the effects when you see one European [would-be] Nationalist influenced by whatever American White Nationalist internet forum, site, pamphlet... please! someone make that idiot shut up! And they can excercise that influence because, while being marginal and inacceptable beyond the extremes in their real society, they do have a presence on the Internet even when it is still marginal. In other words, one could argue that White Nationalism is more of an Internet phenomenon than anything else.

To some countries, like Britain, the process of disintegration and ethnic death is so advanced that White Nationalism can provide a escape (still not a solution). And so it is little wonder that the BNP is some sort of British WN party. But not all of Europe is doomed.. if we do the right thing we can still hope for a future.

[M.R.]

I used to post on SF, but after a year I found out that WN has no sence here in Europe and that only ethnic nationalism makes logic here.

American WN can only work in America (or let's say Australia or some other Euro colony), here in Europe it's more or less multiculture. Not to mention simple minded anti-Christianity of most WNs.

Regards

[Menydh]

There are many WNs who are, as you say, single minded anti-Christians. But there are others (no few) who subscribe to what they call christian identity. Again, these christian identity ideas are a parody of Christianism just as white nationalism is a parody of Nationalism.

[M.R.]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

There are many WNs who are, as you say, single minded anti-Christians. But there are others (no few) who subscribe to what they call christian identity. Again, these christian identity ideas are a parody of Christianism just as white nationalism is a parody of Nationalism.

I don't know much about Christian Identity, only that they are anti-Catholic.

Anyway, I think the most funny anti-Christians are "Aryan Odin kill X-tian warriors" WNs or NS.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by SlovenianNationalist

I don't know much about Christian Identity, only that they are anti-Catholic.

Anyway, I think the most funny anti-Christians are "Aryan Odin kill X-tian warriors" WNs or NS.

It is a miserable way of confusing people in Europe to waste their time and efforts.

We have problems as real and dangerous as ever grown Muslim immigrant populations trying to force Islam in Europe. Pakistanis, Moroccans, Algerians, Arabs, Turks and other assorted non European ethnies of Muslim religion procreating like rabbits in Europe, at the cost of our health and social systems, threatening to outbreed the native Europeans. Hundreds of thousands of Black Africans on our streets and millions waiting to come. Thousands of Chinese destroying the small businesses of the locals with their unfair trade practices, while the delocalisation of the industries in Europe destroy thousands of jobs and future jobs which go to China. American Indians and Mestizos by the loads taking the jobs of workers with a family to feed by reducing labour costs.

But right, they [Americans] have clear in their minds that we should target our own people who are of Christian European faith in the name of ancient gods which they only know from comics. Surely it could get more retarded, but I honestly cannot see how.

[Cirrus]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Thus, I'm not surprised that David Duke has made his way into that conference in order to obtain a convenient picture together with people of the intelectual level --whether I agree with his thesis or not-- like Guillaume Faye.

Guillaume Faye is intelligent but I think he's also a political buffoon - just like David Duke. In fact, he contradicts himself all the time, and I think he's an impostor.

[Eurovox]

Why sould a man who changed is views be an impostor? Faye does not contradicts himself, he just evolve in his views and is not a man chained to dogmatism. He was for the lutte des peuples now he defends only and above all just the european identity. He saw in its time some interest in the growing islamic world power, now he look at it as something that is a threath to Europe. He was somehow a open mind with homosexuality in the eighties, nowadays he accus the homosexuals of launching an offensive.

I dont see any contradictions but some reasonable evolving thoughts.