Are we strangers at home?

I've been 20 days now repairing a boat in this marina off the coast of Africa, which is (and has been historically) a stop port for ships and boats crossing the Atlantic from Europe, or in their way south to Africa and into the Indian Ocean. In such a place the numbers of foreign people waiting for the right weather, or to do some repairs, or just stopped for provisions, is high. Spanish, Germans, English, French, Swedes, Italians, Danish, and many other Europeans on their boats. Also from Eastern European countries working in the shipyards, and perhaps looking forward to make a living in the marina that allows them to stay and live here.

Some have rather expensive boats and supposedly no financial problems, while others have small boats that they fix themselves with a very tight budget, even offering themselves to do works on other boats for some additional money. And many in between those two. The latter are usually more experience sailors, some solitaire sailors, and "the gypsies of the seas".

Just two nights ago, on Sunday night, I needed a break from all the hard days spent here and I went to the bar on the marina. There people ask you if you are going to cross the pond, or whatever you are doing, and where are you from, and which boat is yours, etc. As I was having my second rhum with ice, a German woman sitting next to me started to pour me with questions. She looked as if she had had a few drinks herself too.

She was there with her husband and another couple of Germans, and so we all started to exchange stories and opinions. After a few more drinks, the conversation moved away from navigation and into Europe and politics. It was expected, so I made sure to have a few more drinks before that moment.

Also as expected, after a few minutes talking the Germans were rather shocked with my opinions. I knew that they would be, not as much as for the "opinions" in themselves, but because they had a stereotype of Nationalist in mind which did not quite fit into what they were seeing in front of them. Needless to say, such stereotype's name is your usual "nutzi".

At some point, I disclosed my sympathies for a party like the NPD in Germany. The woman who I had met first was quick to label them as nazis, in shock. I could relate it easily through her pronounciation to nutzis. Yet again, as expected.

I told that although such people could be found there, they were fringes and that the ones I knew about were nothing of the sort, but simply Germans with a national and social feeling which could not --and should not-- be labeled as nutzi as if it was a witch hunt.

Did they understand anything? Probably they did, but the question is if they believed a word of it.. I haven't seen them again around the marina, so I guess that they set sails the day after to a "nazi-free" marina.

Now, after telling this story to some German member of Stirpes she told me on a PM that "how can they make others understand if their own people don't".

I don't have a magic formula to help with this, but I do believe to know the answer. Or at least what could be the answer.

In a certain way, it happened to me in the far past that we isolated ourselves from the people in "a closed comrade environment". The consequences of this was a lost of contact with much of the reality that was developing around us, and the subsequent losses which followed up years later.

So the answer lies in that we should.. we must.. look at ourselves from "the outside", and through the eyes of "the others". We need to learn to be critical with ourselves, and spot our defficiencies and fix them. If we blame "the others", we are just looking for a escape to our own failures.

Likewise, if we alienate ourselves from the people we end up being, to the eyes of our own peoples, "the strangers", i.e. "the foreigners". We cannot expect then them to listen and to understand the message. They are blind, but we are blindfolded. It shouldn't take much. As the saying has it, in the realm of the blind the one-eyed is king. It shouldn't be hard to at least opening one eye to reality.

This is one more reason why I argue against the retardness of other forum boards and web sites, against their supreme idiocy and the damage that they represent as far as educating young people into Nationalism. And that is why Stirpes came to being in the first place. Have we failed? I don't think so. If we are catering for a number of valuable and intelligent Nationalists, small as it may be, the effort is a worthy one and a world difference from having large number of idiotic retards crying out loud their ignorance and psychotic lunacisisms.

And so, now that I am at that bar again (and even if it is only noon here), I've asked for a beer (unusual drink in me) and I raise it on a toast to all the good members of Stirpes and all other Nationalists in Europe who do the right things in spite of the tempests that we have to endure.


Cheers! And long live a Free Europe of the Nations!

[Gil]

Vale hermano!
I salute you and all of good will that, no matter their social extraction and knowledge, have one thing in common: their love for their culture and nation.
Cheers!

[Routasydän]

An interesting post with good points, which I agree on. I too have tried to distance myself from the more extremist elements, but it seems useless as we are branded with the same brush anyway.

[Phlegethon]

The main problem is that one has to distance oneself from almost everything and everyone using the label "nationalist" these days.

The problem with the NPD is that it consists of a solid majority of scum that scares decent people away. Unfortunately it is the same thing with other groups, and there are no other political parties who come even halfway close to a nationalist agenda.

[Strengthandhonour]

100% agreed.
I think that people like skinheads are counter productive, why? well this people alienate themselves and give themselves a label and make themselves look different, with this, people look at them as different people than them. People need to see, that "Nationalists" are people just like them that care for the values and culture of the country, not that they want to go out on a crusade to eliminate everyone who isn't part of that country.

[Routasydän]

Exactly. I have always been a nationalist, since the time I began to realize what nations and peoples were. It is only relatively recently, though, that my nationalism has been 'activated' and transformed from a sort of subconcious/innate concept. Realizing the threat that nations of Europe face has activated it. Patriotism and Nationalism in Finland is quite strong I would think, but most are still in the 'passive phase', i.e. they don't recognize the threat (yet). Finnish patriotism/nationalism is not loud or flashy, but a quiet, solemn sense of being and sense of history and a sense of greatfulness to previous generations..

What I'm trying to say is, to the ordinary person the sort of foaming-at-the-mouth activists and proponents of nationalism are alienating, because I don't think they can recognize the threat. Most people seem to think life will go on as usual, in other words they choose to close their eyes and hope for the best.

Ideally, nationalism does not have to be very visible, it only needs to act as a glue keeping the nation together. It is just a set of values, taken for granted. Like women's rights; most women in Europe have reached a more or less equal status with men at least in theory and most people take it for granted that this is the way it should be. Therefore the groups, who fight for women's rights are usually small, extreme and very vocal. Political parties don't really need to stress that they are for gender-equality, because it is taken for granted. I think that is the way nationalism should be. However, in times such as these, it is necessary to be more active, to be loud and to be seen. How to get across to people in the passive phase, that's the hard part.

[Nerthus]

At first it seemed odd that you had to tell them (Germans) that the NPD weren't nazis. But on second thought, it's not so odd after all. They were average people guided by a general stereotype. Or, it's this mass of average people which is the most numerous. Without incorporating them and gaining their support, I see it really hard for any progress to be made in Europe.

And about subcultures, while skinheads f.e. do clear some areas of immigrants, scare them and help convert some people, this is not a solution to the problem. It is like moving to the rural areas to get away from Turks etc. They will get there too eventually. It's just a matter of time. This is an issue which needs to be tackled on a political level and subcultures like the skinhead movement will gain no significant position in this area in order to be able to change things for the masses.

Originally Posted by Phlegethon

The main problem is that one has to distance oneself from almost everything and everyone using the label "nationalist" these days.

Much unfortunately, this is true. The mass media has managed to make the general public to identify Nationalism with all kind of American-style retards: marginal urban tribes (skinheads), white trash nutionalists, supremacists/nordicists, symbol-fetishist nutzis, etc.

The truth is that the media could have never succeeded in so doing if it had not been for the existance of the above named idiots. A shame.

Now, what can we expect people to think about us.. how do we expect people to see us when even many of us Nationalists abhor such fringe individuals?

I am certain that my fight is for the preservation of my nation. But this says little unless I define it more in detail. What's there to preserve is what is worth to be preserved, what is right and good. And also the desire and the will to improve the nation. If I had fought to see my nation in the hands of a bunch of lunatic retards, I'd rather see her vanish into the midst of history.

The problem with the NPD is that it consists of a solid majority of scum that scares decent people away.

Harsh words, but true ones.

A question for all should be what do you regard as your people, the normal ordinary and decent people even if they are dormant or [wrongly] reject anything that sounds to Nationalism, or the scum who make us look like a shameful bunch of lunatics.

I have no doubts here, and I pick the former. And while I agree that it is a much hard task to present Nationalism to the ordinary people and convince them to accept and embrace it, it is even harder to make the fringe lunatic fetishists realize of their retardness and of the damage that they do. With the former you can expect a fair minimum of intelligence and ability to comprehend. With the latter looking for any sign of intelligence is like hoping for a miracle.

Unfortunately it is the same thing with other groups, and there are no other political parties who come even halfway close to a nationalist agenda.

If you can't create a new group from scratch --and you do know of the impossible task that this is, in terms of human and financial resources--, then you have to sanitize the existing groups..

Main Entry: san·i·tize
Pronunciation: 'sa-n&-"tIz
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): -tized; -tiz·ing
Etymology: Latin sanitas
1 : to make sanitary (as by cleaning or sterilizing)
2 : to make more acceptable by removing unpleasant or undesired features <sanitize a document>
- san·i·ti·za·tion /"sa-n&-t&-'zA-sh&n/ noun

Did anyone say that being a Nationalist is an easy task..?

Originally Posted by aeternitas

At first it seemed odd that you had to tell them (Germans) that the NPD weren't nazis. But on second thought, it's not so odd after all. They were average people guided by a general stereotype.

Right. And that's why I believe that meeting this ordinary people and showing myself as the [more or less] normal person that I am, to then present myself as a Nationalist to break them their schemes and preconceived stereotypes, while on an individual basis it has a small impact, it does have a positive impact.

If, due to the poor results and of the hard and long way ahead, I let myself be taken to the fringe lunatic side, then I'll have failed miserably. If not, even if I don't get to see the changes, I will be opening a window of hope for the future generations. And thus I'll have not failed.

If you have to fall, do it with honour and at least in some style.

Or, it's this mass of average people which is the most numerous. Without incorporating them and gaining their support, I see it really hard for any progress to be made in Europe.

More important than that, that mass of average people are the people, i.e. the nation. You owe nothing to the fringe retards, and you owe everything to the nation even if the people are in open decay.

And about subcultures, while skinheads f.e. do clear some areas of immigrants, scare them and help convert some people, this is not a solution to the problem.

Of course not. Beating up one, two, or even a few hundred immigrants does nothing good and much wrong. I'd rather do it to a few Liberals or Socialists, who are the real guilty ones.

It is like moving to the rural areas to get away from Turks etc. They will get there too eventually. It's just a matter of time.

Or like diverting the attention from the search for real solutions, and hiding in dreams of racial communitarianisms or new race-based pseudo-nations. Stupidity and cowardice usually go hand by hand.