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Opinion: The failure of Europe's multicultural model
Europe's Lost Future Deutsche Welle 7 November, 2005 The riots in France show that the integration model has failed. Things don't look much better elsewhere in Europe, where similar acts of violence could come as a result, says DW's Andreas Noll. Liberty, Equality, Fraternity -- few things in France are celebrated more frequently than the century-old reason of state. After eleven nights of riots in a row, after burning cars throughout the country, attacks on disabled people and shots at policemen, this credo is nothing more than a wish -- reality is a different issue. Has the French state failed? Over the last decades, governments across the political spectrum have invested several billion euros in modernization projects for problem areas -- none of them with lasting effects. The previous socialist cabinet set up neighborhood police departments focused on dialogue, but was unable to take back lawless enclaves. Current Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy tried the law-and-order approach, but after 11 nights of police crackdown more and more cars are burning in more and more regions of the republic. The emergency plan announced by the prime minister and the president's admonishments will remain meaningless -- and the rioters know it. From success to failure This is happening even though France's model actually celebrated success stories in recent years: The French soccer team's victory in the 1998 World Cup is an example as it was mainly made up of the children of immigrants. The ecstasy of a jubilant nation knew no bounds. Things have changed since then: All agree that the system of quickly turning immigrants into Frenchmen on paper has failed. Critics have a lot of arguments on their side. The French passport is no guarantee for intergration nor does it supply people with work. Erecting satellite towns around Paris, the economic heart of centralized France also proved to be a fatal mistake. These ghettos that were celebrated as future-oriented during the 1960s are so desolate that it's almost impossible to imagine a restoration. Sarkozy's about-turn People are currently calming themselves by blaming Sarkozy. He provoked many with his announcement that he would clean the problem districts with a "power-hose." Even some of his supporters turned against him when his called rioters "rabble." Sarkozy said these things even though he has realized that "liberty, equality, fraternity" has lost its luster. He's been fighting for affirmative action against the president's resistance. He wants to give Muslim immigrants preferential treatment in the hiring process for the civil service and do away with the principle of equality. But an unemotional debate about this issue is not possible right now. France helplessly watches as youngsters set on fire the cars of their equally impoverished neighbors, how they torch the schools of their siblings, how they attack public transportation and enjoy the public's attention while they destroy the foundation of their own lives. Europe lacks strategy A lack of perspectives might help to explain these outbursts of violence from a sociological point of view, but society has no idea how to deal with this apocalyptic irrationality. Many just see how these young people are unable to escape the misery and make use of the existing chances of moving up socially. If it's true that France with its five million Muslim inhabitants foreshadows developments elswhere in Europe, societal cohesion isn't only crumbling in the "grande nation." Attempts to integrate rapidly growing Muslim communities in other countries haven't been much more successful. Europe has so far not found a solution for the integration of a group that has a hold on the future -- at least from a demographic perspective -- but that has no idea what this future should look like. [source]
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'Dardanidae duri, quae uos a stirpe parentum prima tulit tellus, eadem uos ubere laeto
accipiet reduces. Antiquam exquirite matrem: hic domus Aeneae cunctis dominabitur oris, et nati natorum, et qui nascentur ab illis.'  We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. --Plato-- 
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Re: Opinion: The failure of Europe's multicultural model
"Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" - The only thing suprising me is how long it has taken some people to realise that these Masonic buzzwords are a total sham.
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The traditions of the Irish people are the oldest of any race in Europe north and west of the Alps, and they themselves are the longest settled on their own soil - Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922) The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth. For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish. - Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596). The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation. - Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation. - Heinrich Zimmer, Professor of Celtic and Sanskrit, Member of the Prussian Academy of Sciences
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Re: Opinion: The failure of Europe's multicultural model
Ok, now will you help us expell Albanians, Muslims and Hungarians from our lands???
 
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Sure, what's it worth to you
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The traditions of the Irish people are the oldest of any race in Europe north and west of the Alps, and they themselves are the longest settled on their own soil - Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922) The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth. For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish. - Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596). The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation. - Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation. - Heinrich Zimmer, Professor of Celtic and Sanskrit, Member of the Prussian Academy of Sciences
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'Dardanidae duri, quae uos a stirpe parentum prima tulit tellus, eadem uos ubere laeto
accipiet reduces. Antiquam exquirite matrem: hic domus Aeneae cunctis dominabitur oris, et nati natorum, et qui nascentur ab illis.' We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. --Plato--
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but knowing that you Irish multiply like bunnies  ... I changed my mind
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 Well, you are probably right. We'd only sell it to the Croats anyway
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The traditions of the Irish people are the oldest of any race in Europe north and west of the Alps, and they themselves are the longest settled on their own soil - Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922) The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth. For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish. - Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596). The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation. - Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation. - Heinrich Zimmer, Professor of Celtic and Sanskrit, Member of the Prussian Academy of Sciences
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