Which European country is more likely to start a European Nationalist Revolution?

[Corvin]

Hello everyone
The subject of this thread is which country do you think is more likely in the near future to start a Nationalist pro-European revolution targeting its very survival. Since Europe, by my opinion, is in its decadance (and that is why we are here ), I believe that in the near future we will see a Nationalist revolution in one country, and this will spread to the other European countries. This type of revolution will deal will social justice, racialism, religion and finally with the very idea of Europe. So which country is more likely to be?

[Corvin]

I will start with my opinion over potential candidates:

Sweden
Spain
Italy


Each of these countries is threatened by:
Sweden: Illegal immigration that very quickly destroyes its social structure and system
Spain: Illegal immigration and the prospect of direct threat from arabic countries that consider it as their lost kingdom
Italy: Luck of governance and great social instability after years of democratic ruling and national suppression.

In the countries could be Greece, if and only if could provide the national momentum that is needed to create a revolution. However it is unlikely that to happen since the Greeks are divided by forces beyond their control.

Potential candidate I see Sweden since its social structure it will be the first to collapse under the pressure of immigration and asylum seekers. They also have the potential of feeling in the future as the protector nation of Europe due to their protectivity to what Europe stands.

[henerte]

Originally Posted by Corvin

This type of revolution will deal will social justice, racialism, religion and finally with the very idea of Europe

Racialism and the very idea of Europe seem to stand in contradiction to each other. Don't you think?....

Originally Posted by Corvin

Italy

ROTFLMAO!!!

Originally Posted by Corvin

Sweden

ROTFLMAO!!! x 2

[Headhunter]

Sweden is a weak candidate in my opinion.
Swedes are generally altruistic and very slow in taking radical action against something that bothers them. This is not a good combination for the fight for independence. I think that they will be led to look anywhere but at the root of the problem when their social structure begins to collapse, just like the Americans were.

Belgium, France, Italy, Spain and Greece are more likely candidates.

[InterPares]

I'm not sure, but in my opinion Russia or maybe a country from Balkans.

[IrishThirdPosition]

I think Italy is the most likely - Forza Nuova have much clout in the country now.

Of course, there's the Irish

[Awar]

All of the Balkans is always on the verge of becoming ultra-nationalist,
which is bad, because all the nationalist parties here are simply populists
who want power.

[Corvin]

I will restate my opinion based on some scientific facts that I believe in general can apply to social-political events.

• Competitive systems are more stable than non-competitive systems
• There is a certain amount of energy present to a complex system that in general get transformed to a lower level
• Events that take long time typically release a great amount of energy
• Events that take place in short time intervals release small amounts of energy

These statements are based on Control Engineering which is a science which considers systems and not units, thus take a overal perspective of a system behaviour and not how each individual part behaves.

I will put now this theory under my views:

• Healthy nationalism leads to competitive economies, no doubt, due to the framework that applies to the nation. Thus, past show us that Europe before 2nd world war had greater competitiveness than now. Currently competitive economies are the scandinavian because of that nationalism (which at the current time remain unconscious due to lack of active leadership)
• Central European states such as France and Germany have consumed their amount of energy (lets call it nationalist energy ) due to defeats that essentially crack down the wave of healthy nationalism. I will put also a remark: Healthy nationalism has a Pro-European determination, speaking on Napoleon, Carlmagne of Hitler.
• Scandinavian and Mediterranean countries did not really comsumed their nationalist energy, due to continues external threads (south) or environmental (Winter, North) threads. Thus this competition was able to maintain the stability required to maintain the nationalist energy.
• Scandinavian states needed many hundred of years to develop their social framework within community, and this is a large investment which is threadened by internal instability caused by minorities. When the minorities will reach the numbers that impose the critical point of social stability to collapse then we will probably face miracles.
• The same logic goes to Mediterranean states since they face an infiltration of immigrants that very late will cause the required instability, with the result of a great nationalist revolt.

I will not speak further about my points, but I hope that I gave food for thought.

Sincerely
Corvin Von Amber

[Whiteruthenian]

The Western Ukraine, I hope.

I heard many times that Western Ukrainians are fed up with Easterners and are ready to live separately. So the best way to solve the Ukrainian problem ‘West – East’ is to divide the Ukraine into two separate states. Then the Western Ukrainian troops should occupy the Eastern Ukraine and establish there an occupation regime. The happy end.

[svin]

Ross would argue with you, since he considers Western Ukrainians to be heavily mongoloid influenced.

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by svin

Ross would argue with you, since he considers Western Ukrainians to be heavily mongoloid influenced.

Ross, that guy who glorified the rapes of millions of German women by USSR soldiers, right ?

Anyway, back to the topic... Which European country is more likely to start a nationalist revolution ?
In Western Europe I would say France or the Netherlands. Rather France since the Dutch do not have such an important nationalist movement. And we could already speak of a civil ethnic war in many (formerly) French areas... Just read Aprtgangr's articles.
In Eastern Europe, perhaps Russia or some Balkanic country... Not sure.

Anyway it is highly desirable that the first European country to start such things owns nuclear weapons... Which only leaves France and Russia.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Theobald

Ross, that guy who glorified the rapes of millions of German women by USSR soldiers, right ?

He had grown resentful of slanders against Russians. Not that this justifies it in any way.

There are many things that should have never been said. So much for free speech. One slander is followed by a retaliatory slander and so on. The hostility grows and there is no limit nor ending to it.

The lesson should have been learnt long ago. But unfortunately there will always be people like Polak with a clear disability and will to learn.

[Tennyson]

Revolution is unlikely in any Western European democracies. Some nationalists might maneuver themselves into power in Russia but that would do nothing to help Europe at large.

[Marulus]

Hungary?

[grom]

Russia and Belarus,maybe any country in West Europe but only if non white do some provocation-kill president, do many terrorist attack in short time etc.

[Galaico]

What about Flanders?

Imagine that in ten years they separate from Belgium, then the Vlaams Belang would be able to form Government in an independent Flanders, and carry out anti-immigration and nationalist policies.

[Der]

Originally Posted by Theobald

Ross, that guy who glorified the rapes of millions of German women by USSR soldiers, right ?

Anyway, back to the topic... Which European country is more likely to start a nationalist revolution ?
In Western Europe I would say France or the Netherlands. Rather France since the Dutch do not have such an important nationalist movement. And we could already speak of a civil ethnic war in many (formerly) French areas... Just read Aprtgangr's articles.
In Eastern Europe, perhaps Russia or some Balkanic country... Not sure.

Anyway it is highly desirable that the first European country to start such things owns nuclear weapons... Which only leaves France and Russia.

Why do you think it will happen in France? I hope it does it has to start in a big Europen Country that's for sure.
Although we are getting to the point where ethnic civil war will be the only solution in all European Nations.

In fact that is the solution I am waiting for I don't think there is any other way if we onestly hope of having a revolution.

But the question is who would lead that revolution in France?

Originally Posted by grom

Revolution is unlikely in any Western European democracies. Some nationalists might maneuver themselves into power in Russia but that would do nothing to help Europe at large.

True I think that Western Europe and Russia are two diferent worlds unfortunatly; I think that Russian nationalists are only looking to ensure the survival of Russia and the Savic peoples.
And will not intervine with Western European afairs (EU) once they've made their revolution. (If endeed it does start in Russia as it probably will)

[IrishThirdPosition]

At this point, I have to say that Ireland is the most likely. There's a growing split in the Republican movement here, and more importantly, we're a small country that's just been lumped with over 400,000 immigrants in a short number of years...

After that, Italy, Flanders, Poland, Greece, Romania and Hungary look promising. Let's not forget Russia - perhaps it's already happening there?