Which European country is more likely to start a European Nationalist Revolution?

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by wilpuri

But when you compare them to other eastern European countries that have joined the EU in 2005, you will see that it was expected.

I looked at some demography statistic. According to the statistics I found Turkey has a population fo 1.06%. In order to grow at the same right Greece, Bulgaria and Vardarska (FYROM) need the following number of children to be born:
- Greece needs 2.56 but that's only if it wants to keep accepting muslim immigrants. If it wants to outpace this immigration to Greece it needs 2.88 children born per women. Currently it is at 1.34.
- Bulgaria needs 4.13 children born per women since Bulgaria has a negative migration rate and a highr death rate. Currently it is 1.38.
- Vardarska needs 2.61 children born per women. Currently it is 1.57.
- Cyprus needs 2.59 or 2.65 if it wants to outpace turkish growth and migration to cyprus. Currently it is 1.82. Although I believe the required statistics are higer since I was unable to find statistics relating to growth in Turkish Cyprus, which I suspect is higher then in Turkey.
- For Serbia statistics needed to determine this could not be found. All I could find is that the current rate is 1.78.

I would also like to know if any one finds statistics on how fast Muslim mnorities are growing in these countries since that would require even more births. I know in Serbia Shqiptars are rising at a rate of 2.77% a year so Serbia clearly needs even higher growth.

[Crvena zvezda]

I found statistic relating to Serbia. In order for Serbia to grow at the same rate as Turks are (1.06%/ya) it needs the average women to give birth to 2.78 children. In order to outpace the growth of shqiptars in Kosovo it needs 5.01 children born per women.

[Menydh]

Three children per woman should not be much to ask. Some would fail short but then others would outperform.

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Three children per woman should not be much to ask. Some would fail short but then others would outperform.

In most of the cases listed above three children would be enough. But in Bulgaria's case and Serbia's case regarding how fast Shqiptars are procreating in Kosovo it is not enoguh.

[Reltih]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Three children per woman should not be much to ask. Some would fail short but then others would outperform.

Recall what happened and happens in China and India.

In most of the cases listed above three children would be enough. But in Bulgaria's case and Serbia's case regarding how fast Shqiptars are procreating in Kosovo it is not enoguh.

And what do you suggest....? Yours model: wholesale slaughter, civil war and so on. Your way of existance is some parody of WW2....

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Obshtestvena syvest

And what do you suggest....? Yours model: wholesale slaughter, civil war and so on. Your way of existance is some parody of WW2....

I'm not suggesting slaughter. Second of all there was no slaughter in Kosovo. I'm suggesting we have faster population growth then they do. By 2050 given current projections Kosovo's population will have tripled, while Bulgaria will fall by 60% and some predictions say muslims will be in the majority, Greece's will have increased but the muslim population will be significantly larger and Serbias will barely increase. What about Turkey's, by that time Turkey's population will be approaching 120 million.

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Obshtestvena syvest

Recall what happened and happens in China and India.

What happen's there. Famine and drought. Droughts in Europe are never as severe as the ones in China and India, Serbia has an abundance of water and India's population density is 329 per sq km while China's is only 140 per sq km. Not only that they haven't experienced any drought or famine in a long time and India's population is still growing. Futher more, i'm not sure about Bulgaria, but Serbia can produce more agriculture thern it currently can as it is largely inefficient (Serbia could probably produce enough agriculture to feed 70 million+ people if it's current agricultural resources are used to maximum efficiency, it can also introduce higher yielding and better crops and livestock. not only that the future of agriculture is vertical farming in which farms are housed in skyscrapers in cities). Serbia, Bulgaria, Greece and Vardarska (FYROM) can support more people since the population densities are small (84 per sq km in Greece, 70 per sq km in Bulgaria, 106 per sq km in Serbia (if one includes kosovo where it is 180 per sq km, with out it it is 98 per sq km), 79 per sq km in Vardarska). Greece can support more then twice it's current population, Bulgaria, FYROM and Serbia can all support larger populations more then three times larger.

[Reltih]

Originally Posted by Crvena zvezda

I'm not suggesting slaughter. Second of all there was no slaughter in Kosovo. I'm suggesting we have faster population growth then they do. By 2050 given current projections Kosovo's population will have tripled, while Bulgaria will fall by 60% and some predictions say muslims will be in the majority, Greece's will have increased but the muslim population will be significantly larger and Serbias will barely increase. What about Turkey's, by that time Turkey's population will be approaching 120 million.

Excellent, priceless cliche!
Muslims find themselves to be very attractive and then do some other things....

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Obshtestvena syvest

Excellent, priceless cliche!
Muslims find themselves to be very attractive and then do some other things....

Why are you defending them, haven't you read about their population bomb. By 2050 they will be the world's largest religion, the number of regions they form a majority will increase also. Plus, what do you see wrong with increasing Europe's population especially in the underpopulated east. By 2050 it is believed that there will be 653,000,000 people in Europe down from 720,000,000 estimated for 2010 while the world's population will be close to 9 billion.

[Reltih]

Originally Posted by Feldmarschall

All stuppid arogant muslims must go to Anadola!!!

I would go there on vacation too....

[Reltih]

Originally Posted by Obshtestvena syvest

I would go there on vacation too....

Sunny, cheap and clean.

[Crvena zvezda]

Another good reason for why Serbia, Bulgaria, Greece, Vardarska and all other Orthodox christain nations in Europe should icnrease their population is that we have a good goal to achieve if we have a large enough population:
- we can kick turks out of certain regions of turkey and send millions of settlers there to liberate constantinople and raise the cross over the church of holy wisdom once again.

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Feldmarschall

That's right!
Constantinople must be liberated! But all Christian Europe must help us."No" for the turkish membership in EU!! They are not europeans! They are primitive "Untermenschen" and must stay in Anadola!!!
Nasty, stinky and pathetic turks should be kicked in Asia!!!

I doubt any one would accept them. China cerainly won't accept putting them in Central Asia since extremely nationalist Turks have designs on making a Turkestan in central asia that would include parts of China. I doubt the Arabs, India or Iran or any other asian state would accept them. So there are only two solutions: send them to antartica to freeze to death or send them to live with blacks in Africa.

[Feldmarschall]

I doubt any one would accept them. China cerainly won't accept putting them in Central Asia since extremely nationalist Turks have designs on making a Turkestan in central asia that would include parts of China. I doubt the Arabs, India or Iran or any other asian state would accept them. So there are only two solutions: send them to antartica to freeze to death or send them to live with blacks in Africa.18 Minutes Ago 23:46

Ha-ha.
I think the second solution is interesting!
If the turks make mixed marriages with blacks, what a hybrids will be there..!

[Whiteruthenian]

Originally Posted by Obshtestvena syvest

And what do you suggest....? Yours model: wholesale slaughter, civil war and so on.

What poor imagination! Have you never thought of such things as apartheid, segregation or biological genocide, for instance? There is no need to pull out consecrated knives immediately.

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Whiteruthenian

What poor imagination! Have you never thought of such things as apartheid, segregation or biological genocide, for instance? There is no need to pull out consecrated knives immediately.

Do you propose to do what Muslims in Nigeria said Christians were doing? That vaccinnes for diseases long gone in other parts of the world were nothing but an attempt to make Muslims barren like the Sahara.