Which European country is more likely to start a European Nationalist Revolution?

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by Ljubomir

Revolution in Europe? I am not sure exactly what you mean by revolution, but it doesn't sound very likely. I am not so much thinking where, but how such a thing could happen at all.

I honestly wouldn't want any country to try to start a European nationalist revolution. My simple hope is that countries in Europe are able to govern themselves and lead others only by their good example.

Unfortunately, the current anti-nationalist obsession of the current EU elite makes that very difficult.

[Reltih]

Originally Posted by FlorentinoAriza

The Balkans.

Unfortunately the rise of Nationalism in Balkans always leads one nation opposing the rest (and finally to war).

The disintegration of Jugoslavia was in itself a chain reaction of small national nationalist revolutions, but civil wars. A process detonated by the fall of the communist regime. The question of thread has it very obvious answer in recent european history.

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by Obshtestvena syvest

The disintegration of Jugoslavia was in itself a chain reaction of small national nationalist revolutions, and not civil wars. The question of thread has it very obvious answer in recent european history.

Are you thinking of Germany?

[Der]

Originally Posted by Ljubomir

Revolution in Europe? I am not sure exactly what you mean by revolution, but it doesn't sound very likely. I am not so much thinking where, but how such a thing could happen at all.

When we talk about a revolution in Europe at least in my case I think of a European ethnic civil war as in where the ethnic and blood europeans will have to deal with the growing threat that the "legal" ones bring that is as in the imigrants especially the muslims wich are begining to demand more political power; Theobald explains it very well in this post:

Originally Posted by Theobald

No one. Because there will not be revolution anywhere in Western Europe, I'm pretty sure of that. Nationalist movements through Europe are mere jokes. This is not 1936 anymore, when the nationalist Cagoule was to overthrow the "French" socialist government.
What I am thinking of is a civil ethnic war, with many characters. Why do I think it will happen in France ?
Everything is here :
- mass-immigration and failure of Republican integration
- strong Islamist and communautarian feelings in North African population (and growing supremacist feelings in sub-Saharan population)
- strong nationalist feelings in ethnic French population
- declining economic situation with a high unemployment.

We saw an avant-goût (could be translated as "first impression") of this during suburban riots in 2005. We are already seeing something that looks like an ethnic war and a strategy of non-European territorial conquest as you can read there. Muslims are starting to demand a share of political power, and they will not stop there when their demographic weight will have become determinant.
Guillaume Faye pretty much sums it all up in "La colonisation de l'Europe". I can post and translate extracts from his book if you want.

"We’re ready for it again. In fact it hasn’t stopped."

- Omar

[Reltih]

Originally Posted by A Fist Full of Snow

Are you thinking of Germany?

I'm thinking of Jugoslavia in recent 15 years . German nationalist revolution was half a century ago.

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by Obshtestvena syvest

I'm thinking of Jugoslavia in recent 15 years . German nationalist revolution was half a century ago.

I would hate to see what happened in Yugoslavia repeated but I do like the idea of Theobald's. For France to belong again to the French themselves would help cause a very positive transformation of European politics. For it to happen dramatically in the streets would be best of all. It would mark the beginning of a new era. Maybe a 6th Republic is needed.

[Arthur Gordon Pym]

As long as the present structures of power and economic system persist, there won't be either change or revoltion in any European country.

There must be some importan economic turmoil first, as I already opointed out.

[wilpuri]

Originally Posted by prometheus

As long as the present structures of power and economic system persist, there won't be either change or revoltion in any European country.

There must be some importan economic turmoil first, as I already opointed out.

Yeah, but I don't think the EU countries will be experiencing anything like that for a loong time. The depression which occurred in Finland in the early 1990's can't repeat itself anymore, or so they say.

[Arthur Gordon Pym]

Originally Posted by wilpuri

Yeah, but I don't think the EU countries will be experiencing anything like that for a loong time. The depression which occurred in Finland in the early 1990's can't repeat itself anymore, or so they say.

Don't be so 100% sure...

[wilpuri]

Originally Posted by prometheus

Don't be so 100% sure...

I'm not, but the greater the integration into the global economy, the 'softer' the bumps in economic stability. I don't see how any of the pre 2005 EU countries could have anything resembling a serious economic depression in the near future.

Of course, increasing income gaps and growing poverty will cause social tensions without any major economic upheaval.

[Arthur Gordon Pym]

Originally Posted by wilpuri

I'm not, but the greater the integration into the global economy, the 'softer' the bumps in economic stability. I don't see how any of the pre 2005 EU countries could have anything resembling a serious economic depression in the near future.

Of course, increasing income gaps and growing poverty will cause social tensions without any major economic upheaval.

And if the bubble called "global economy" explodes?

[wilpuri]

Originally Posted by prometheus

And if the bubble called "global economy" explodes?

If.

[Arthur Gordon Pym]

Originally Posted by wilpuri

If.

"We'll see!"

(the blindman said )

[Der]

Originally Posted by prometheus

And if the bubble called "global economy" explodes?

The bubble called "global economy" will expload, there is no doubt about that, there are many theories wich deal with the subject of the: "Self-destruction of capitalism" a system wich is based on explotation of the limited resourcess of the enviroment and the need and search for a constant groath can't keep growing for ever it will reach a time when all markets will be covered and there are no more available ones to seek. (The whole Earth will be covered)

Other theorists look at social-economic consecuences due to the badly distribuition of capital.

But the intresting thing is that all the theories that have been established up till now all agree on one thing, and that is that this will happen in the mid XXI century.

Still, all of this comes to little to late, European nations will have disapeared by then and multiracial european States will be established with no chance of going back.

[wilpuri]

New markets are constantly being created for new commodities and services. Is there a limit, I wonder.

The biggest limit to exponential growth in my opinion is the earth and its limited resources. The bubble might burst, but will Tellus be all but consumed and Mars colonized by then?

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by prometheus

And if the bubble called "global economy" explodes?

This is just the kind of thing which seems to be starting.

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