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Kvasir and I have had an discussion concerning the term "national-revolutionary" elsewhere, although in a different context, and I started to wonder about the history of its use.

When did people start to refer to themselves as "national revolutionaries"? As far as I have seen so far the term was used, though not very often, in the Third Reich. However it referred to an event, "the national revolution" (Machtübernahme more or less), rather than to an ideology.

In For my legionaries Corneliu Codreanu, one of those who often is described as "national revolutionary", never uses the word revolution in a positive way as far as I can see.

The first time I've seen the term "revolutionary nationalism" used to describe an ideology is in Derek Hollands The political soldier (which I believe is from 1984).

Could it be that Roger Griffin is in part to "blame"? In The nature of Fascism (1991) he uses "revolutionary nationalism" to describe one form of "neo-fascism" that doesn't have any inter-war-time regime as it's main source of inspiration. In connection to this Griffin also mention some persons, the Strasser brothers, Corneliu Codreanu and Ernst Jünger. (Why he places Jünger in this category of "neo-fascism" and not his forth category, "conservative revolution", is beyond me.)

Can anyone shed some light on this topic or at least expand the darkness a little?
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I think "revolutionary nationalism" could be considered not an ideology but one phase of nationalism, that of revolution against the establishment.
I think that generally speaking nationalism is usually associated to "revolutionary" movements, mainly because nationalist ideals are outside the status quo and in order to fully accomplish them a "revolution" (as in abrupt change) would be needed.
I think the category (if one can call it that) is being used as opposed to the more conservative/less mobile nationalism which as become stale and outdated and usually promoted less "radical" changes to society.
(Classifying "revolutionary nationalism" as a ideology is a bit redundant: almost all forms of nationalism defend a "revolution".)
Nonetheless, i've not read the above works and as such the term could be used in a specific context (be it right or wrong) and that would invalidate any other assumption. (for example, the term "chauvinist" is usually applied in a social theme while it was coined as a political term).
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Being a revolutionary nationalist simply means that you are not trying to reform the existing system by some minor changes but that you want to replace it with something else, with all means available. That does not exclude party politics and elections but is in no way restricted to it.
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