Would you accept the immigration of...

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Evrain

I see that a lot of posters have voted and are in favour of immigrants if they are only white. Isn't this something you would expect from "white nationalists"? Maybe a forum like Stormfront would fit this kind of view better.

You are right. The problem is that although we have followed a number of policies of alienation of WNs --and, in general, of Colonials-- from the first day, many choose to ignore it and pretend that it doesn't go with them.

As it is now, opinion polls help next to nothing as they are not representative of the Stirpes community.

I briefly discussed recently in the Staff forums the problem of polls (especially in the Politics forums) being accessible for vote to non Europeans (and people with non nationalist ideas too).

[Menydh]

Opinion polls and the Stirpes European community

[Laocoon]

Not only the expressed opinions are strange, so are the options. It is to wonder which kind of people it was addressed to.

[Kalevi]

1. People who are unlikely to identify with a foreign hostile power, culture or ideology (for example of the opposite: Muslims).

2. People with a compatible set of values and culture, and are preferably as ethnically close as possible.

3. People who are racially close to a reasonable degree. Not a hardcore racist here, but looking radically different makes it obvious that your roots lie in a faraway place making it harder to identify with the country and integrate.

And last, no welfare parasites, thank you.

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by Evrain

I see that a lot of posters have voted and are in favour of immigrants if they are only white. Isn't this something you would expect from "white nationalists"? Maybe a forum like Stormfront would fit this kind of view better.

If a migrant does not look like they're related by blood to the host nation then people will naturally feel a certain distance. We cannot reinvent human nature.

Originally Posted by Kalevi

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3. People who are racially close to a reasonable degree. Not a hardcore racist here, but looking radically different makes it obvious that your roots lie in a faraway place making it harder to identify with the country and integrate.
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That's right. The same way a most people would prefer to adopt children who look similar to them so that the bond between child and parent is closer. If someone adopts a Chinese child they are reminded by the questions of others (and by their own eyes) that the child is not completely theirs.

Of course adoption and immigration are not exactly the same. A thirty-year old electrician from Poland has a much stronger sense of self than a newborn baby!

[Delbáeth]

Originally Posted by Cristoforo

I am making this poll to have an idea of what type of immigration is acceptable to most of us. Please vote in the poll.

Scotland is in the midst of a drastic declining birth rate. We have been told we could need at least 20,000 new immigrants a year. Whether those immigrants be Polish, or Pakistani, they will have a negative impact on the Scottish people and culture. Gàidhlig is making a bit of a come back, the last thing we need is 20,000 Polish/Russians/Turks, what ever, coming in and finishing off what the English started.

I accept immigration from no one.

Alba gu Bràth!

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by Highland Thistle

Scotland is in the midst of a drastic declining birth rate. We have been told we could need at least 20,000 new immigrants a year. Whether those immigrants be Polish, or Pakistani, they will have a negative impact on the Scottish people and culture. Gàidhlig is making a bit of a come back, the last thing we need is 20,000 Polish/Russians/Turks, what ever, coming in and finishing off what the English started.

I accept immigration from no one.

Alba gu Bràth!

That's what comes from years of anti-nationalism from both pro-immigrant Labour and the free-market Conservatives. Both see their citizenry as entirely replaceable.

[Gnist]

I find it odd that someone actually voted for "hardworking" aliens. As there are lots of completely alien people in my country, I prefer it that they are altogether outside society in every sense. People who come around to do exactly what our governments want them to do are much more trouble in the long run than those who are misfits.

[Tryggr]

I voted for other European people. And in that I agree with what Kalevi said:

1. People who are unlikely to identify with a foreign hostile power, culture or ideology (for example of the opposite: Muslims).

Definitely. These people are like a horse of Troy. And we all know what happened to Troy.

2. People with a compatible set of values and culture, and are preferably as ethnically close as possible.

Also important. Though I guess you can discuss what is compatible.

Would you say catholicism and lutheranism to be compatible? IMO they are, but I believe some people think differently.

3. People who are racially close to a reasonable degree. Not a hardcore racist here, but looking radically different makes it obvious that your roots lie in a faraway place making it harder to identify with the country and integrate.

Quite important too. Some variation can be expected, and will happen within any nation anyway, regardless of migration. But a black person in a place like Finland pretty much stands out.

[M.R.]

Accepting immigration of other European people is not an option for me, they are hardly any better than non-European immigrants, in Slovenia immigrants from Balkan are the biggest problem so far and many of them are of European (apart from Bosnian Muslims who I don't consider as European) origin. I voted 'no one', although I wouldn't really have problem with few immigrants, but I understood this poll in terms of modern-day massive immigration.

[Tryggr]

Originally Posted by M.R.

I understood this poll in terms of modern-day massive immigration.

In the case of mass migration, I would also vote for no one. I was thinking more along the lines of limited migration.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Tryggr

In the case of mass migration, I would also vote for no one. I was thinking more along the lines of limited migration.

It is silly to even argue about small migrations, within Europe. But unfortunately that's not what we are seeing today.

Originally Posted by Tryggr

Definitely. These people are like a horse of Troy. And we all know what happened to Troy.

Yes. That the whole mess was started by a woman.

Would you say catholicism and lutheranism to be compatible? IMO they are, but I believe some people think differently.

The Evangelicals? Most incompatible, in my opinion.

[M.R.]

Originally Posted by Tryggr

In the case of mass migration, I would also vote for no one. I was thinking more along the lines of limited migration.

In the start of the thread, this wasn't pointed out so basically this poll is useless. I think everyone here is against immigration (in terms of mass immigration), be it European or not, so it's about interpretation of individual, on the other hand I think no one really here is against immigration in some limited numbers, as it was in Europe before massive immigration trends.

[Laocoon]

Originally Posted by M.R.

[...] on the other hand I think no one really here is against immigration in some limited numbers, as it was in Europe before massive immigration trends.

That would all depend on their origins.