Would you accept the immigration of...

[Heretik]

An excellent thread!

I voted:

"Other european people" and "White people from non-european countries" but, of course, I wouldn't like to see turks or albanians here...

[NatVox]

Originally Posted by Spartadux

maybe i'm not explaining myself well

No, you are not. Your construction of sentences in English does not follow a structure and this often gives the appearance of your statements being inconnexed. It is a bit hard to make sense of most of it.

i'm not concerning issue of ario-dinarici-venusian and lunatic races, as it's habit of various ODinists and Nordicists often found on Skadi.

If it's a habit on other sites, why bringing it here then? You wouldn't want it to become a habit here too, would you?

My aim is to show that migration of europoid ethnonationals are ealthy for Europe

Europoid? If I'm not wrong this term implies looking like European/Europid but not European/Europid. Or something along those lines.

I sincerely hope that you are not implying here that mass migrations across Europe are healthy for Europe. They are, in fact, most unhealthy.

It would be even worse --in fact much worse-- if this statement implied that the assimilation of large numbers of non European colonials of European descent would be any good for Europe.

if we see that 1 our number and race vitality is getting lower
2 the empty areas of our society will be filled by populations with no relationship with us and no possibility to harmonic integration with our folks.

I'm not sure what you mean here by 'race vitality'. The ability to reproduce as a race? Or perhaps the will that has characterized many nations of Europe throughout their history?

That's the issue i'm relating for, not certainly a mindless discussion over "more or less" originality of some european respect anothers.

That's alright, but I insist that it is not an issue here.

I'm only saying that any suggestion about the non european ethicity of italian populations, as could be citizens of Sicily, is for me an idiotic point and a steril debath.

There is no one 'European ethnicity' in Europe, but several. I take it that your concern is that there have been people who have equated European to Nordid or even Nordoid. Well, that is sadly the case when one individual has a view of the world limited to his small village environment and then comes out of it to be confronted with a complex reality which he is unable to process and to assimilate in his brain.

[Left-nationalist]

I dont have problem with any white european. I just dont like w.americans at all.

[psycho_pixie]

ideally - no one, but since we don't live in a perfect world - other europeans, white people from non-european countries, white atheists.

[Spartadux]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

No, you are not. Your construction of sentences in English does not follow a structure and this often gives the appearance of your statements being inconnexed. It is a bit hard to make sense of most of it. .

maybe i wrong because i often write in hurry so i can confuse myself with some words.

.[/quote]If it's a habit on other sites, why bringing it here then? You wouldn't want it to become a habit here too, would you?.[/quote]
No i don't want, but the bad habit is not rightly mine, i'm rather on the opposite view of those examples i did before. So it is clear i did such examples ad bad examples and not certainly as "my examples".

Originally Posted by Mynydd

It would be even worse --in fact much worse-- if this statement implied that the assimilation of large numbers of non European colonials of European descent would be any good for Europe..

Here it has been a huge misunderstanding about my thoughts, i was not referring to a mass immigration neither to a mass immigration from colonies. I was talking about "similia cum similia" coming from Europe as a continent from POrtugal to Moskow including Malta on south and Iceland to North. All folks related to this area is European folk also if , i would be blind at contrary, there are different ethnic groups and different nationals.
BUT... the differences are evident but not a weapon of dismissing of the culture and race of a single nationality as it would be mass immigration from Ghana, Nigeria, Pakistan, maghreb and other kinds of immigration.

Looking at the actual and present immigration i' d rather prefer, and i wrote it different times, a different balance of number of immigrants coming from other european countries or coming from countries which belonged to us. The requisite is the origin of the "migrantes": if those are originated from Europe (Italians in Argentina and Brasil, Euro-Ispanic from South America, Irish and french and Italians or easterns from USA or Canada) i don't have problems to such arrivals.
I have problems and not small problems if those are blacks and arabs so an ex colony does not mean i want nigerians and pakis and west-indians because they were ex colonies.
But i don't go further in explanating this because is obvious, on the contrary i'd not be here but in the NO-Global forum or in http://www.indymedia.org.

Originally Posted by Mynydd

That's alright, but I insist that it is not an issue here..

you got the point of what i was thinking with the concept of vitality, but i don't follow you when you say is not part of the topic. IS THE MAIN PART OF THE topic here because on the contrary we would have not faced the problems we are living in Europe.
If we are in this swamp is because we don't have will neither strenght to opposite the multicultural globalization defending our folks and political indipendence. Is more strong the folk of Boer in Africa of South: they are a minority but none of them is annihilated by globalization and illusions. On a side we have a III world full of resentements and will to come here and taking places whatever we think or not. ON our side, in Europe, we have "peace and love".
If we don't solve this we don't understand how to face immigration and which kind of migration we can choose and accept.

Originally Posted by Mynydd

There is no one 'European ethnicity' in Europe, but several. I take it that your concern is that there have been people who have equated European to Nordid or even Nordoid..

Yes there have been such statements but they were wrong and i'm totally on different opinions.

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Well, that is sadly the case when one individual has a view of the world limited to his small village environment and then comes out of it to be confronted with a complex reality which he is unable to process and to assimilate in his brain..

Not my case, i've travelled in several lands of Europe and i'm quite confident with the issue of different ethnic groups of Europe, we are different but if we want to preserve European identity there would have been in my opinion something which brings to us the idea of a common destiny and identity.
Anyway another guy very smart said that an acceptable immiggration is the immigration wich takes assimilation of its people within a generation or two. Differentely is a bad affair and i agree.

[Arawn]

Not treating immigrants like shit is a sure way to give them an incentive to intergrate and eventualy assimilate, which is the main reason why many European countries are up shit creek in the immigrant department.

[Dasbuck]

I find it amusing that there are so many here that seem to greatly detest my nation, and folks like myself. I suppose there is a stereotype of white Americans as being brutish morons and the like, but I assure you that not all of us are found to be such obnoxious lunkheads as you would think. I suppose it doesn't matter much in the long run, since you likely won't rethink your opinions based upon what I might say, although I hope with time you will come to amend your temperment towards us Americans in the light of the greater good for all our people.
The concept of merging ethnic types in Europe has be brought up in this discussion and I would only offer this point: That the original intentions of those who created this nation I live in was to bring Europeans (initially Anglo and Germanic types) together as a nation without the predetermined animosities found among Europeans at the time. Thus, many Americans have lineages from several European nations, and in truth this is what has made this nation the great and powerful land it has become.
My own European roots (English/Irish/Scottish & very little other types) quite likely would never had merged had they remained in Europe. Yet, were I to settle in any of these three nations, I would expect that my assimilation would take very little time, and within a generation my children would be as if the had no roots here in America.
Were I to move to any other European country, the chances of my assimilation would be dramatically different, and I doubt I'd be readily accepted by the native population (which is a shame since I have always found the eastern coast of Italy to be beautiful) even after several years of coexistence.
That is the essential reality of it.

[Graeme]

Europeans have been moving to other European countries for centuries and most have assimilated in time. Where are the French Huguenots, the Flemish or Italians that immigrated to Britain centuries ago? Their descendents are part of the British people. I know Australians who live in the Netherlands and their children are very Dutch and speak English the way Dutch people do. Assimilation of people of similar race and culture can be very rapid provided that the original immigrants want to assimilate or want their children to assimilate. That is the problem with the muslims wherever they come from. They want the benefits of living in a country but with their traditions and culture. A muslim cleric said in Australia that muslims cannot '...do as the Romans'. That is they won't assimilate when it comes to how they view women, bring up children, teach Arabic the so called divine language, clothing and so on. Being a muslim to them means sticking to medieval ideas and forms of behaviour. It is like they consider the native Europeans and their customs like Sodom and Gemmorah. What arrogance! In Australia, negro Americans assimilate better than any muslims of any skin colour. Christian Lebanese assimilate, muslim Lebanese don't. Same racial type, same colour but different results because Islam is inimical to European customs, traditions and ethos.

[Rusalka]

I think the right thing would be to define "Muslim" in the truest sense. A lot of "Muslims" are only born that way, that is, you are recorded as one if your father was recorded as one etc. My father, an atheist, is supposedly a Muslim by his ID. Me, an agnostic, am too. A lot of people don't put religion too upfront, I believe. Personally, I'd live in any country without problems granted if they were not fundies, of any kind.

I was at a Circassian gathering back home a few days ago and it was all traditional "flirting" (called kashen) and lots of (and I mean lots of) drinking. Circassians are considered "Muslim" because they were recorded as so when they came to the Ottoman lands. Now, how Muslim is that? Where do we dwar the line?

Fundies are fundies, in any religion. I'd hate a fundie evangelist the same as I would hate a fundie Islamist. Maybe even more, cause they're so damn annoying.

[Gil]

I voted other europeans but I think strict quotas should be set to limit the number of foreign workers. Japanese and americans are also welcomed as long as they kept within the quota set for their countries. As for turism and recreation feel free to visit our wonderfull countryside and nightlife at the local pub near the beach

[Spartadux]

we don't hate Americans but we oppose the power of the USA, the power of Mondialization and Globalization of the Imperialist State of the Multinationals. And for political and cultural matter and because of the invasion of Europe and the continuos attack towards the self determination of sovereign nations.

Here Americans are always welcome and i think that white americans can be good to came here.

[Spartadux]

let me post a caricatural vision of the Leftwing nationalists

[Eara]

My votes go for " White people from non-European countries"and "other people from Europian countries"

Originally Posted by Der Elsasser

They aren't White Europeans... I support Armenia against Turkey and Azerbaidjan, but I don't want Armenians in my country...

Thanks for supporting us against turanoids.But calling us non white you can't be true ally with us,becouse you try spread a no true fact about us.We both culturaly and rasialy are white.We are a seperate branch of europian culture.
There are differences and many liknesses between us and other europians.
Of course you may be agree or disagree for immigration of armenians to your country.But you have no right to divide us from a
family ,whom member we are.
Without disscusing the reasons of the immigration from my country ,I want to point that I also don't support the immigration
of my compatriots to other countries.

[Awar]

"White" is an american/anglo-saxon construct. Such vague idiocy simply shouldn't be used.

[Blood Axis]

Originally Posted by Awar

"White" is an american/anglo-saxon construct. Such vague idiocy simply shouldn't be used.

Well it was already an option on this poll so it's not entirely his fault.

[Awar]

Sure, but that US/Anglo-Saxon invention of 'white' isn't exactly desirable here.
The term 'white', when it's synonimous with 'caucasoid' is OK with me.

Basically, I'd get rid of all such vague stupidity. Americans are free to use it, because
they're made-up of it.