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I am interested in reading the manifestos of European nationalist parties and I would like to start with the NPD. Unfortunately, there is no english version (of course not!, Germans will shout ) so I wonder if someone in here could give me a brief of the main issues/points the NPD manifesto has.
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NPD "parteiprogramme": http://www.npd.de/npd_dokumente/NPD-Kurzprogramm.pdf

It's in german though.... perhaps you could find a friend to translate....either that or ask very very very sweetly to Bayerische...
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Or maybe try an online translator on the html'ized page of google:

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache...ient=firefox-a
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Yes, I found that link but I don't understand a damn of German and these online translators are not good. Maybe I should learn that language too lol.
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Well, I could translate the short program if I had the time. The full program is about 100 pages, so it is very unlikely that it will ever get translated.
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Well, I could translate the short program if I had the time. The full program is about 100 pages, so it is very unlikely that it will ever get translated.
I just need to know the main points basically. What are the strong points of the program, the weak points, the more idealistic (thus long term points) and the more practical (short term) etc.
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LOL. You are asking for the programme and for a full essay on the programme.
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LOL. You are asking for the programme and for a full essay on the programme.
I really think I will have to learn German. No problem, at least I will be able to communicate the next time I go to Heidelberg. LOL
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Well, I could translate the short program if I had the time. The full program is about 100 pages, so it is very unlikely that it will ever get translated.

... or implemented...

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I wonder what comes first.

It would be much easier if the whole world spoke German. Maybe we should put that into our program as well?
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... or implemented...
Better try and fail than never have tried.

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It would be much easier if the whole world spoke German.
You are cruel on extreme.

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Maybe we should put that into our program as well?
Under the section of International Relations & Military Aggressions, or Ministry of Culture, Tourist Affairs & World Dominance?
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Here are some basic points from the NPD website (http://www.npd.de/npd_startseiten/programme.html). If my translation is in error, please correct me, weil mein Deutsch nicht perfekt ist:

Grundlage des Staates ist das Volk
The basis of the State is the People.

Grundlage unseres Volkes ist die deutsche Familie
The basis of our People is the German family.

Alle Staatsgewalt geht vom Volke aus
All governmental authority emanates from the People.

Die Wirtschaft muß dem Volke dienen
The economy must serve the People.

Die raumorientierte Volkswirtschaft
The space-oriented People's economy.

Währung, Steuern und Finanzen
Currency, taxes, and finances

Sozialpolitik als nationale Solidarität
Social politics as national solidarity

Deutschland muß wieder deutsch werden
Germany must become German again.

Deutsche Souveränität und das Europa der Völker
German sovereignty and the People's Europe.

Deutschland in seinen geschichtlich gewachsenen Grenzen
Germany in its historically developed borders.

Ein Volk ohne Vergangenheit hat keine Zukunft
A People without a past has no future.

Die Natur ist die allgemeine Lebensgrundlage
Nature is the universal basis of life.

Das Bildungswesen und die Kunst sind Teil der Volkskultur
The educational system and the arts are part of the People's Culture.

Reform des Rechtssystems
Reform of the legal system.

Die Wehrpolitik muß eine nationale Grundlage haben
Military politics must have a national basis.
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Adressing the readers, the party leader Udo Voigt talks about the corruption of the curent parties in Germany, of the demagogue politicians who only care about their bank accounts (typical for nowadays). These parties stand for the well being of foreigners and fringe groups of society, while the NPD worry about their own people. The party, in contrast, stands for the kind of politics which would provide people with working places, worries about social justice, about the well being of the community, strenghtens the importance of family, puts an emphasis on values and renders people their identity. They stand against the exploitation and supression of their own people, they support freedom for Germans and a reorganizing of the current society. He also talks about the way post-war politics appeals to old and not new ways, and since there are so many new questions, these require new and innovative answers. The party stands against the 'dusty' ideologies of the past which are now anachronic and utopian (Mynydd likes this I'm sure ) and rejects multiculturalism as a solution to the current problems. He mentions that the NPD was attempted to be banned but these attempts failed and now it is up to the German people to act and work with them for a better Germany. So basically, a Germany for Germans, a future for the Germans within the bigger European context - nationalistic, which is not bad at all
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Come on, everyone wants world domination!
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Adressing the readers, the party leader Udo Voigt talks about the corruption of the curent parties in Germany, of the demagogue politicians who only care about their bank accounts (typical for nowadays). These parties stand for the well being of foreigners and fringe groups of society, while the NPD worry about their own people. The party, in contrast, stands for the kind of politics which would provide people with working places, worries about social justice, about the well being of the community, strenghtens the importance of family, puts an emphasis on values and renders people their identity. They stand against the exploitation and supression of their own people, they support freedom for Germans and a reorganizing of the current society. He also talks about the way post-war politics appeals to old and not new ways, and since there are so many new questions, these require new and innovative answers. The party stands against the 'dusty' ideologies of the past which are now anachronic and utopian (Mynydd likes this I'm sure ) and rejects multiculturalism as a solution to the current problems. He mentions that the NPD was attempted to be banned but these attempts failed and now it is up to the German people to act and work with them for a better Germany. So basically, a Germany for Germans, a future for the Germans within the bigger European context - nationalistic, which is not bad at all
Interesting, especially the bold part
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Come on, everyone wants world domination!
Nah, we Iberians are past that phase. Been there, seen that.
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The party stands against the 'dusty' ideologies of the past which are now anachronic and utopian (Mynydd likes this I'm sure )
Yes, and I wish that they (Nationalist politicians) were more scrupulous with this.

Chances for a true Nationalism in Europe are fragile and not many. Live in the past, and you can be sure that you won't have a future.

More dangerous than the immigrants & company are the Liberal and Socialist politicians. More dangerous than these treacherous rats are Nationalists who stick to fetishism for the past, or any other kind of fetishism.
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