Political Orientation

[Biggles]

btw Im not a fully blown English Nationalist as a few have mistaken me for .

Anyway, like Siegfried (whos 18 also I believe) Im too young to attach myself to an orientation and call it "What I believe", really I care little for either end of the spectrum....

[Gil]

Libertarian Right. I think the idea of centralized state tends to lead to corruption and excessive burocracy so I believe in a strong police and military but in a free economy an a national-specific welfare (no welfare or residence visa for non-citizens and non-europeans specifically).

[Spartadux]

a comrade fascist defends honour and remembrance about the comrades who are being killed by enemies as it happened in Italy until 1983



A comrade fascist defends his soil and his enviroment trying to unite people of other ideas as below



a fascist defends also the Indipendence and Freedom of other nations as we do for the rights of Palestine

[Pandur]

An ehnocentrical crypto-fascism. In other words I believe in ideal postulates of Fascist ideology applied to my nation, minus Fascist esthetics and outwardness, in order to prevent the social ostracism or even the worse consequences.

[Arjuna Durden]

Labels are annoying and useful at a time because they force you to choose and yet to keep defining yourself. For example the dichotomy i reactionary / revolutionary is annoying. I think I am both, meaning in this age of masses and machines revolutionary methods are needed to apply an efficient reaction against Modernity and Democracy.

That’s also why I consider myself a National Socialist with a strong Traditionalist revolutionary/reactionary flavour.

Ideologies like nationalism and socialism are modern phenomena, both have a strong need of the demos and both can be strongly used as demagogies, as it has often happened to arrive at the stage of history where we are now. By uniting or combining them cleverly, one can neutralize some negative features, but not all. I see them therefore as tools of advancing towards Tradition.

I don’t identify myself the least with skins, rac, and lots of pseudo-nazis (footballers, bikers, bad guys, rightist hooligan kids, etc.) and I don’t walk the street full laden with swastikas, but I can only agree up to 99% to the style and proposals of groups like CEDADE and the CEI




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[Spartadux]

for Pandur: is the fascist ideal so bad seen in Croatia now?Is it difficult and dangerous to be and to be definied as a fascist in Croatia?

The spanish comrade said about CEDADE, does it still exists?

[Pandur]

Originally Posted by Spartadux

for Pandur: is the fascist ideal so bad seen in Croatia now?Is it difficult and dangerous to be and to be definied as a fascist in Croatia?

Since recently yes, because the parliament voted for outlawing 'totalitarian' symbols. Yet the resistance of the right wingers is strong, and it is still possible to break these laws without more serious consequences. Its a measure the state brought because politicians believe it could endanger the EU negotiations.

Croatia erases 'fascist' tributes



Authorities in Croatia have taken down two monuments which commemorate officials from the country's Nazi era.
A plaque dedicated to writer Mile Budak and a statue honouring Jure Francetic were removed in accordance with laws banning any homage to fascism.

Budak, a minister in the 1941 to 1945 Ustasha government, introduced race laws which led to the execution of thousands of Jews, Serbs and Gypsies.

The monuments were erected recently and some locals objected to their removal.

Following the Nazi invasion in 1941, a "Greater Croatia" was formed, also comprising most of Bosnia and western Serbia.

The fascist puppet government under Ante Pavelic acted brutally against Serbs and Jews as it sought to create a Catholic, all-Croat republic.

Francetic was a top military officer, and founder of the infamous Black Legion unit, which served in Bosnia.

'Negative notions'

The plaque to Budak in Sveti Rok, Lovinac, was put up last week by a group which said it was funded by people who fled the country to Australia and Canada in 1945.

It drew criticism from the government as well as rights groups and the Roman Catholic Church.

The government, which hopes to start European Union membership talks next year, decided to order the removal of the monuments during an emergency session on Thursday.

The cabinet also said it wanted amendments to the penal code to ban the promotion of all totalitarian ideologies, including communism and fascism.

Croatian Prime Minister Ivo Sanader said the government would "not allow Croatia to be imprisoned by the past - particularly by negative notions - but will direct all its capacities toward the future".

"The monuments are contrary to fundamental elements of the Croatian constitution and damage the reputation and interests of Croatia," he added.

Reuters news agency said several villagers in Sveti Rok cried as workers took away the black marble plaque to Budak.

The statue to Francetic, erected a few years ago in Slunj, was also torn down under heavy police security on Friday.

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[Timo]

I am not sure what my political thingy is.
It varies from issue to issue mostly, if it is social or economic.

[Dr. Solar Wolff]

Right now political orientation doesn't mean anything in the big picture. The problem is that the most powerful country in the world is run by an absolute moron. I am not saying this because I don't like the guy or I am a democrat. I am not. This guy "W." is someone you wouldn't hire to answer your telephone, I don't care where he went to school or what degrees he has. This is not just MY problem.

Because the USA is the most powerful country, it can pull in other countries to do what it wants them to do. Look what has happened in Iraq. The USA has got troops from Poland---POLAND-- in there dying for some stupid cause.

Bush is now talking about Iran. He couldn't find Iran on a map--hell, he couldn't find Poland. I am not kidding folks. We are being driven by a man who can't drive---how can I explain it?

This man has the power to push the nuclear trigger. He has the power to disrupt the world's economy. he litterally has the power to flush us all down the toilet. The most pressing problem on this planet is stopping this man and his ambitions. He honestly believes---deep down believes---that he can do no wrong because he is on a mission from God.

For now, I am suggesting that all of us, all over the world, nomatter what we call our politics, set aside our differences and work together to thwart this mad dog and his mission.

[Timo]

Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff

The problem is that the most powerful country in the world is run by an absolute moron.

I don't buy into that cover. I think he wants people to under estimate his inteligence. It plays into his advantage when his enemies think he is stupider than he really is. I don't think he is a genius or anything, far from it. I think he is a man that knows his goals and how to achieve them, and is motivated party by his religious beliefs - which, if I were to give an honest opinion on, are insane.

[Reltih]

Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff

The problem is that the most powerful country in the world is run by an absolute moron.

The "absolute moron" won two times the votes of the american people. That make them twice more absolutely moronic.

[Gil]

Perhaps the leader is only a reflection of what the majority is like.....

[Timo]

Originally Posted by Manji

Perhaps the leader is only a reflection of what the majority is like.....

I think the majority in all countries is on the ignorant side. They are too tied up with their own goings-on in their lives to know much of what is going on in the world, except maybe 5 minute snippits they hear and see on the news. Hell, most people my age (no matter what country) are out partying, working or schooling, not reading information on the internet for most the day, untill I got class, that is. Yes, many people in America are ignorant, but it is not limited to America.

[Zyklop]

Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff

For now, I am suggesting that all of us, all over the world, nomatter what we call our politics, set aside our differences and work together to thwart this mad dog and his mission.

Bush´s foreign policy doesn´t differ much from the American way of looting the world since 100 years. It´s not the problem of one man.

[Dr. Solar Wolff]

You guys are not fully appreciating the threat--to you as well as to me. Bush is a moron. This is no act. Did you see him in the Presidential debates? I was embarrassed that this inarticuate, know-nothing represents me. Timo, you are correct about one point: Bush, a northern Yankee, has learned Texas mannerisms, which he does even badly by California standards.

Zyklop says essentially that Bush is business as usual for the USA in its rape of planet earth. No, Bush is far more dangerous. This is so hard to explain to Europeans because what I am saying is that Bush is irrational. He is not thinking on the same wave-length that you are thinking on. He is making decisions based on his religious beliefs, "faith-based decisions". The last leader to do this led a Crusade in the Middle Ages and, unfortunately, we are involved in a crusade right now in Iraq. Bush, like other Christian Fundamentalists, believes it is his mission on earth to assist Israel in any way he can. He believes he will be judged by God when he dies on how much he has helped the Jewish people. This is one of his missions. Another is to bring "democracy" to the whole world. This democracy he has in mind is a society which you can see in some Red States. This is a church-centered, moralistic, dogmatic, dull place to end up.

Do you think you have heard the end of Bush's aggression? Do you think our military is stretched to its limit? Do you think that every soldier who would volunteer has done so by now? Well, Bush doesn't think so. He is drawing up plans to attack Iran and Cheney is saying now exactly the same words he said on the way to invade Iraq. These are mad dogs--like nothing I have ever seen in my lifetime.

One other thing implyed by the conversation above. You are all right in one thing. The American people have elected exactly the goverment they deserve.

[Arjuna Durden]

Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff

You guys are not fully appreciating the threat--to you as well as to me.

Zyklop says essentially that Bush is business as usual for the USA in its rape of planet earth. No, Bush is far more dangerous. This is so hard to explain to Europeans because what I am saying is that Bush is irrational.

I'm with Zyklop. Bush is not worse than Woodrow Wilson or Roosevelt. The differences are two: First, it is just a matter of manners. His political horizon he tells more open. Seconly, his primary enemy are not the European Empires but Muslims because they're not liberal, communist and democratic. Besides, Modernity is always irrational and nihilistic

Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff

He is not thinking on the same wave-length that you are thinking on. He is making decisions based on his religious beliefs, "faith-based decisions". The last leader to do this led a Crusade in the Middle Ages and, unfortunately, we are involved in a crusade right now in Iraq.

Please don't compare a puppet instrument of the masonry with the Crusader Ordens. If a Holy Crusade had not taken place in some regions like Spain (Reconquista), I and many other Europeans would have not even born. Please, don't insult my ancestors. And clarify your comprehension of history.

Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff

Bush, like other Christian Fundamentalists, believes it is his mission on earth to assist Israel in any way he can.

Stop there! I don't know any Christian worthy of that name who is for fighting for or alongside Israel. Please don't confuse Christianity with that grotesque aberration which are American cults and churches, especially with Ashcroft's and Bush's Christianity. Besides, if Rome and the Patriarchs were today a shadow of what they were we would not be having all these problems.

Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff

This is one of his missions. Another is to bring "democracy" to the whole world. This democracy he has in mind is a society which you can see in some Red States. This is a church-centered, moralistic, dogmatic, dull place to end up.

True. The evil war of Mr. Bush is a war of conquest for Democracy. But Democracy is the opposite of true Christianity. Democracy and Modernity are the forces that have nearly killed proper Christianity.

Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff

Do you think you have heard the end of Bush's aggression? Do you think our military is stretched to its limit? Do you think that every soldier who would volunteer has done so by now? Well, Bush doesn't think so. He is drawing up plans to attack Iran and Cheney is saying now exactly the same words he said on the way to invade Iraq.

Indeed, that's called New World Order, Globalization, Democracy, etc. It is just another form of the many wrong doings since 1648/1789 (or since the 1400s). Nothing new; well, just the weaponry

Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff

These are mad dogs--like nothing I have ever seen in my lifetime.

That's because we have seen nothing in our lifetime but dissolution. In other ages the mad dogs were hunted like rabbits by true warriors.

And Bush is just a bloody rabbit protected by thousands of mercenaries.