Fascists and Jews united for Rome mayor

[drgs]

"Unpossible"™

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Almost a Christian

Mussolini had a Jewish mistress (an artist IRRC) in the early of days of his government

Margherita Sarfatti - the Jewish mother of fascism?!? (1)

Margerita Sarfatti - the Jewish mother of fascism (2)

Margherita Sarfatti - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Errigal]

Anyone interested in the possible links between Italian politics and the American neoconservative project would find the career of Michael Ledeen worth investigating.

Ledeen has been accused of associations with shady organizations. For example, Jim Lobe has stated that "Ledeen's right-wing Italian connections — including alleged ties to the P2 masonic lodge that rocked Italy in the early 1980s — have long been a source of speculation and intrigue, but he returned to Washington in 1981 as 'anti-terrorism' advisor to the new secretary of state, Al Haig."[5] While he acknowledges being paid by the SISMI in 1980 for "risk assessment",[1] Ledeen denies any connections with Licio Gelli's masonic lodge. Ledeen told Vanity Fair that he had been paid $10,000 by the SISMI in 1979 or 1980 for advising them on extradition matters between Italy and the US.[6] He denied having worked with [Francesco] Pazienza or Propaganda Due as part of a disinformation scheme. "I knew Pazienza," he explained. "I didn't think P-2 existed. I thought it was all nonsense — typical Italian fantasy."[6] Pazienza, while at SISMI, did help Ledeen obtaining a tape confirming information on "Billygate."[7]

Michael Ledeen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Kernunnos]

Originally Posted by M.R.

As far as I know, Italian fascism, historicaly, was quite friendly to Jews on the start. Anyway, this all seems strange to me, as far as I know Italian (neo-)Fascist movements, they are quite "anti-Semitic".

Real neo-fascists (Forza Nuova etc) couldn't sum up their votes to a mere 1% of the total, they got even a fraction of that 1% ....

Foreign press parrots what italian liberal press says for propaganda reasons, this Alleanza Nazionale (most of the ex MSI turned necon now fused with Berlusconi liberal Forza Italia in the new PDL) is light years away from the old M.S.I.

Liasons between Musolini and jewry halted abruptly in 1938 when he assumed Hitler's position on the jewsh question by enacting mild "racial laws" (actually, laws identifying jews on practiced religion and not an any biological basis as the nazist had done), with a 180 degrees about face with regards to jews.

Before 1938 Mussolini had enjoyed the full support of italian jewry (excluding the age old, mostly proletarian Rome community, it was mostly a burgeois community that had deeply appreciated Mussolini's policy against the socialist menace): he had even made a program for training jewish cadets at the famed naval academy of Livorno, in prevision of the creation of a future jewish state in Palestine.

[Kernunnos]

Originally Posted by Marulus

Margherita Sarfatti - the Jewish mother of fascism?!? (1)

Margerita Sarfatti - the Jewish mother of fascism (2)

Margherita Sarfatti - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Old news, really

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Kernunnos

Old news, really

I know they are old, just putting it here for those who haven't yet heard of Sarfatti.

[Yago]

Originally Posted by Sergius

The jewish vote aside, is this not a positive development? Or am I being naïve? I thought the old MSI people were in the good books.

It was vox populi already in the late 70s that Giorgio Almirante (MSI) was filo-semitic.

Originally Posted by M.R.

As far as I know, Italian fascism, historicaly, was quite friendly to Jews on the start. Anyway, this all seems strange to me, as far as I know Italian (neo-)Fascist movements, they are quite "anti-Semitic".

We should know the difference between German instigated biological anti-semitism, and Christian inspired opposition to Judaism.