Women in "the movement"

[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by Bridie

"Equality" by definition means "of the same value". It does not mean "the same regarding all characteristics".

For example, you could have an apple and an orange, both worth 50c, but that doesn't make them the same type of fruit. Or you could have a motorbike and a refrigerator of the same value, even though they obviously have very different functions.

Yes, but that is not all. The equal rights they advocate would lead to a sex-blind society, with no pre-defined sexual roles, and sexually defined boundaries. Sexual anarchy, so to speak. Total equality.

[Martín Zalacaín]

Originally Posted by Susi

GOD FORBID WOMEN THINK FOR THEMSELVES! ^^

Personally I have no problem with cooking nor with cleaning. I just have a problem with being told what to do. Put it into practise... well... my mum always cooked meals (and she has a job too) and taught me to cook. She taught me to knit. She (and my father) taught me to be responsible. *shrug* It's a problem with educating children.

The problem though with your model is that more and more men are becoming deadbeat losers who don't care about their families and spend all their time working.

edit: Also if you try to put things into less controlling language maybe I will be more inclined to agree.

Well, what I was trying to express (quite unsuccesfully, it seems) is that it is ridiculous to speak about putting women aside or confining them to the kitchen in the current context. Equality (homogeneization) between sexes is, like multiculturalism, a consequence of the kind of society in wich we live. Only if you destroy the root of evil, the causes, you will be succesful in combatting its effects.

Talking about confining women to the kitchen in a context where most men are underconfident, trash-food eating morons, tv addicts and more feminine than females is preposterous. Furthermore, having kids is fascist (or something like that) and thus evil, so people prefer to stay childless.

Why should women stay in the kitchen? It serves no purpose at all. It only makes sense in a more organic, natural society. Nowadays, women can perfectly work in inane/moronic 40 hour jobs in the office, and men can perfectly cook and do the dishes. There's no necessity to have separate roles for men and women.

[Monolith]

Women in "the movement"

I say why not?

[Sergius]

Originally Posted by Bridie

You have a very warped view of what feminism is, I believe.

If everyone presented as enlightening arguments as that, he wouldn't.

Originally Posted by Bridie

"Equality" by definition means "of the same value". It does not mean "the same regarding all characteristics".

Of course.

Originally Posted by Monolith

I say why not?

Seconded.

[Susi]

Originally Posted by Gonzalvus

Why should women stay in the kitchen? It serves no purpose at all. It only makes sense in a more organic, natural society. Nowadays, women can perfectly work in inane/moronic 40 hour jobs in the office, and men can perfectly cook and do the dishes. There's no necessity to have separate roles for men and women.

The kitchen isn't the only place in the home.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Bridie

More propagation of the (patriarchal) myth that women are brain-dead sheep that don't really care about anything of importance like politics, economics, sociology etc. Just another attempt at disempowering women, and now indirectly disempowering right-wing politics via their new found association with supposed brain-dead sheep who are just trying to have a bit of fun.

That said from a woman whose idea of "politics" revolves around having blond hair, sounds like a pathetic attempt to re-define "brain-dead".

[Delbáeth]

Originally Posted by Susi

The kitchen isn't the only place in the home.

It#s where you most useful .

[Susi]

Originally Posted by Leipreachán

It#s where you most useful .

Actually I'm pretty handy with a laundry machine too.

[Delbáeth]

Originally Posted by Susi

Actually I'm pretty handy with a laundry machine too.

That's in the kitchen and it's called a washing machine .

[Susi]

My poor little brain can't remember all these fancy terms.

And some of us have a LAUNDRY ROOM. So WHATEVER.

[Monolith]

Girl power! ^^

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[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Susi

And some of us have a LAUNDRY ROOM. So WHATEVER.

And Americans have REST ROOMS. Hell! I wouldn't invite one of them to have a rest at home!

[Laocoon]

Some of the few women in the "movement" are influenced by feminist and egalitarian ideas, and so is the "movement". I think most women are, anyways.

[Susi]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

And Americans have REST ROOMS. Hell! I wouldn't invite one of them to have a rest at home!

Some Americans are just freaks of nature? ,-, It's because they want to not say anything "impolite" when they can be very boorish anyways.

The laundry room is the best room ever. My nan even has one in her council flat... well it also serves as storage but mostly laundry. So ha. ,-,

[Savorgnan]

Originally Posted by Carnyx

Some of the few women in the "movement" are influenced by feminist and egalitarian ideas, and so is the "movement".

Originally Posted by Susi

The laundry room is the best room ever.

No woman, even nationalist, should be allowed in any gentleman's kitchen. They would mess everything up!