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Is democracy the final solution, the last political system?
Are there any better regime types?
Rule by elite, rule by intellectuals, rule by the rich, rule by nobility, rule by merit?

What are the comparative qualities of individual systems? Which is preferable?
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Is democracy the final solution, the last political system?
Are there any better regime types?
Rule by elite, rule by intellectuals, rule by the rich, rule by nobility, rule by merit?

What are the comparative qualities of individual systems? Which is preferable?
I would think that we can simplify this by reducing it to the question - "Which is the ideal political system?"

We can assume this isn't an easy question, because if it were then men would have discovered the answer already and applied it to our societies - bringing the question to a satisfactory conclusion. Yet, on the contrary, we find little concensus on the answer. And few people would honestly say that the society we live in today is their idea of an ideal utopia.
Thus the question is therefore a difficult one and as such we can expect no easy answer. I think we should approach this as a detective would, by a process of elimination followed by deduction. That is to say, it may be easier by first of all determining which systems are not the ideal or best way of governing societies.

As you have mentioned Democracy already, then let us examine it first.
Before we proceed any further though, we need to know which definition of Democracy is our subject. Is it the modern "Democracy" which is championed by the West today and which is arguably no Democracy at all, or are we discussing a true Democracy of the kind known in places such as ancient Athens?
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Maybe a wise combination of Monarchy, Aristocracy and Democracy, like in the Aristocratic Roman Republic?

I guess not every political system can be applied to any nation.

It's the nation which should build its ideal political organization.
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Democracy? Well, in my opinion the system through which the ruling hierarchy is elected is wrong to start with.

How much does the average individual on the street know about the individuals whom he is giving his vote? And even, how much does he know of the skills and knowledge needed to effectively run any of the offices at national level?

Democracy should be exercized at local level, not at the highest levels.
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all political systems are bullshit, it is control by special interests and money, opinions and ideology, none of these things are any kind of a scientific fact but are just control mechanisms..
the current system allows money as the basic unit of manipulation and coercion, money or debt tokens also control our dysfunctional political government system.


Politicians, local or national, are not chosen by the public on the basis of competence or knowledge but rather in terms of personality and promises. Likewise, heads of governmental departments are chosen not for competence, expertise or experience but for their personal ideology and for conformity to a particular "party" line and their willingness to play the game as directed. They do not necessarily have to know anything at all about the functions and services they are to direct. The Secretary of Labor does not necessarily have to be one who has ever been a worker. The Secretary of Education does not have to have been an educator. The person selected to head the Department of Defense , which is basically a functionally technical realm, is chosen without regard for any knowledge he may have in military strategy, logistics, etc., since it is now primarily a money-management agency. The important thing is that they are willing to "toe the line" in accord with the prevailing political and financial ideology.


The injection of monetary concepts into all discussions of natural wealth and income, wholly confuses the people as to the actual issues at stake. Furthermore, it serves as a handy screen behind which, with a little word juggling, the business/political operators of this Price System can continue their profitable activities without being too greatly embarrassed by outside interference. --- Howard Scott.

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