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Ljubomir and I were thinking that a Stirpes version of this political test might be worthwhile.

In the same way an air force copies captured enemy aircraft during wartime, the best first step would be to take apart the existing quiz and then improve on it.
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Do you have an idea of what the software used for it is?
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Do you have an idea of what the software used for it is?
Not off the top of my head but I have a look at my copy of Dreamweaver to see what it can do.
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According to the PoFo test FAQ it is programmed by a member named Maxim Litvinov.

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Q: What technology is used in the coding?
Nothing you couldn't program. PHP is the basis of dynamic pages. MySQL is used to house all the database information - some 5MB or so - on my server and the PHP pages ask for specific information that they then output to you every time you load a page. Javascript was used for the question pages to work with the radio buttons etc. The pretty graphs were generated with JpGraph, which is a freeware add-on that you can use if you've got PHP set up on your website with the GD image libraries installed (almost all paid webhosts will).
http://www.politicsforum.org/forum/v...c.php?p=824036

Maybe you could ask him for advice, at least how the results are counted.

A Nationalist-specific test would be cool.
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From my own result and the results of several other people here at Stirpes, I'd say one of the main flaws with the existing test is its concept of Marxism. The quiz writer didn't seem to know of any other anti-capitalist political schools of thought. Can anyone recommend a better question for a quiz which would separate the Marxist from the Distributist and National Syndicalist?
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From my own result and the results of several other people here at Stirpes, I'd say one of the main flaws with the existing test is its concept of Marxism. The quiz writer didn't seem to know of any other anti-capitalist political schools of thought. Can anyone recommend a better question for a quiz which would separate the Marxist from the Distributist and National Syndicalist?

The National Syndicalist State considers that the Liberty and the Dignity derive from the Christian consideration. Is a lay State, the Church don't interfer in the public issues and the State don't interfer in the religious beliefs.

The National Syndicalist State don't give the Surplus value to the State (State Socialism) nor to the Capitalist, he gives it to the Work.

The companies are transformed into Syndicalist companies, all the people who works there participate in her property and management, in this companies the Capitalist and the State don't interfere, the Companies are self-managed by the workers and the directors.

The National Syndicalism is a form of the spiritual valours of the Spanish People. Spirituality against Materialism. The Syndicalism is opposed to the Bourgeois and the Proletarian Dictatorship both of them are Materialists.
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Thanks Torralba this is useful. So questions in the quiz about profit-sharing and the ownership of enterprises by the workers themselves rather than by the state should separate the Marxists from the rest of us.
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So questions in the quiz about profit-sharing and the ownership of enterprises by the workers themselves rather than by the state should separate the Marxists from the rest of us.

Yes, self-managed enterprises and vertical syndicates.

This is very important in a Syndicalist State because the Syndicate is one of the three ways that the workers have for the political participation in the State (Syndicate, Family and "municipio" ¿town council?).

The Syndicates are basic for the election of the Syndical Bank and the Syndical Camera.
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We have to take care not to confuse Marxism with Marxist-Leninism and its varients. In the UK some Marxists eg the Socialist Party of Great Britain do not see any role for the state and, like left-wing anarchists, want to see the means of production pass from the capitalists directly to the workers in their free collectives. Even most Leninists and trotskyists see only a transitional role for the workers' state (they claim it will have a radically different structure to the capitalist state) gradually ceeding power, they claim, to workers councils and other socialistic social-organisations.

But I agree, just because you are an anti-capitalist it does not follow that you are a Marxist or similar leftist.
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We have to take care not to confuse Marxism with Marxist-Leninism and its varients. In the UK some Marxists eg the Socialist Party of Great Britain do not see any role for the state and, like left-wing anarchists, want to see the means of production pass from the capitalists directly to the workers in their free collectives. Even most Leninists and trotskyists see only a transitional role for the workers' state (they claim it will have a radically different structure to the capitalist state) gradually ceeding power, they claim, to workers councils and other socialistic social-organisations.

But I agree, just because you are an anti-capitalist it does not follow that you are a Marxist or similar leftist.
I get the impression that Trotskyists are not really interested in running or managing anything, they just like smashing things. In that way they are just ambitious Nihilists. And like the character from The Big Lebowski said:

"Nihilists! F**k me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos."
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