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Default UK Conservative leader David Cameron says: “Yes, I am a Zionist.”

UK Conservative leader David Cameron says: “Yes, I am a Zionist.”
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In an question-answer session at the Conservative Friends of Israel, Cameron said: “If what you mean by Zionist, someone who believes that the Jews have a right to a homeland in Israel and a right to their country then yes, I am a Zionist and I’m proud of the fact that Conservative politicians down the ages have played a huge role in helping to bring this about.”
The Conservative went on to say: There is something deep in our party’s DNA that believes in Israel, the right of Israel to exist, the right of Israel to defend itself and that a deal should only happen if it means that Israel is really allowed to have peace within secure borders and real guarantees about its future.”


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What is he doing in the UK then?
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What is he doing in the UK then?
He doesn't get to go to the Promised Land. He is just a little helper to the Chosen, he is not one of them.

\'Dave\' Cameron says he\'s in touch with reality...but with so much wealth and blue blood you have to wonder | the Daily Mail
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If what you mean by Zionist, someone who believes that the Jews have a right to a homeland in Israel and a right to their country then yes, I am a Zionist
By this definition all modern Western European politicians are Zionist. Nothing new under the sun.
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Such statements rarely come for free. The British Conservative Party is likely to be the next in office.

The Jerusalem Post gives a more expanded news:
Cameron declares himself a Zionist | Jerusalem Post
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Such statements rarely come for free. The British Conservative Party is likely to be the next in office.

The Jerusalem Post gives a more expanded news:
Cameron declares himself a Zionist | Jerusalem Post
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Cameron spoke with Daniel Finkelstein, columnist and comment editor of The Times, and gave an insight to what his premiership might look like regarding Israel. The Conservative Party has led the polls in the UK for the last 18 months.
[...]Finkelstein asked Cameron if he were "good for the Jews," to which Cameron replied: "I hope I can say I'm not just a good friend of Israel but I am, as you put it, good for Jews."



Cameron said his political philosophy - which was about trusting and believing in families, voluntary enterprise, and the charitable sector - was exemplified by British Jews. [patriotism, love of the land and military service go unmentioned.]



In addition, the Conservative leader also said he believed there was something "in the DNA" of Conservatives that was "profoundly impressed" by what Israel has achieved. [there is also a strong tradition of hostility and resentment of Israel which goes back to the use of terrorism to get the British out of Palestine.]
I would say the more of this blatant rubbish the better. Now even the stupidest Brit can see who their political elite wish to please above all others.
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By this definition all modern Western European politicians are Zionist. Nothing new under the sun.
Wrong.

We nationalist are all wishing any people the best in their own homeland.

But we see it as ridiculous bootlicking to become supporters of other people causes.

If he ridicules so much his identity it is because he wants their votes, financial and mediatic support.

This doesn't came without a political price.

Also it is debatable that hebrew identity and nationalism be represented by sionism.
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Well, that's perhaps different in Italy but in France there isn't any single politician (by politicians I mean someone supported by more than 100 French), from the Trotskysts to Jean-Marie Le Pen, who denies the Jews a right to a homeland and to their country. Oh, well, apart from some extreme Muslim parties.
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Well, that\'s perhaps different in Italy but in France there isn\'t any single politician (by politicians I mean someone supported by more than 100 French), from the Trotskysts to Jean-Marie Le Pen, who denies the Jews a right to a homeland and to their country. Oh, well, apart from some extreme Muslim parties.
I meant that to support israeli right to a state there is no need to be sionists: so our politicians who do so are just kowtowing to international jewry for local political support by their nations\' jewish interest groups. Actually italian politicians are mostly subservient to sionists with the exceptions of hardcore communists and the small remnants of the fascist party (Forza Nuova). The rank and file lombard-leaguers are perfectly lepenist but some of our bosses are strongly pro-sionists (Calderoli for a start). On average our party keeps itself safely distant from the palestinian-israeli querelle, being us focused on more compelling local problems.
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Oh the day that Cameron and his party get in the better, it means they'll try to retract devolution in Wales and the shit will hit the fan.
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If David Cameron's description of Zionism is correct, then I am a zionist too, Sarkozy has said the same thing aswell and I see nothing wrong with it at all. Yay for Israel
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Sarkozy is also a Jew.

"France's new president, Nicolas Sarkozy, lost 57 members of his family to the Nazis and comes from a long line of Jewish and Zionist leaders and heroes, writes RAANAN ELIAZ." Sarkozy\'s Jewish roots (May 8, 2007)

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If David Cameron's description of Zionism is correct, then I am a zionist too, Sarkozy has said the same thing aswell and I see nothing wrong with it at all. Yay for Israel
so why yay for Israel? you are going to have to explain and defend yourself with this here.
What does Israel do for Europe? Why should Europeans support zionism? what do Europeans get out of it?the jewish support of multicultural ideologies is destroying the foundations of European societies.
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What does Israel do for Europe? Why should Europeans support zionism? what do Europeans get out of it?the jewish support of multicultural ideologies is destroying the foundations of European societies.
Sure, What does Israel have to do with 'Western Culture' and 'Western Civilization'?It's more ideological than it is economical, they're the pinacle of the struggle against islamic fundamentalism, oppression and terrorism. And about your idea that jews support multiculturalism, I don't know where you get that from mate , I know a few Jews who want to boot muslims out of the country, and retain our european culture, and there was a decent ammount of jewish support for nationalism in the 20th century, although to be fair there was much Jewish support for socialism and communism, but then again saying Jews support multiculturalism is like saying ol' whitey supports socialism, when it's just many university students wearing sandals and smoking cannabis that actually do. But I totally agree with you on multiculturalism destroying the foundations or 'smashing the pillars' of European societies.
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You strike me as a neo-con.

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Sure, What does Israel have to do with 'Western Culture' and 'Western Civilization'?It's more ideological than it is economical, they're the pinacle of the struggle against islamic fundamentalism, oppression and terrorism. And about your idea that jews support multiculturalism, I don't know where you get that from mate , I know a few Jews who want to boot muslims out of the country, and retain our european culture, and there was a decent ammount of jewish support for nationalism in the 20th century, although to be fair there was much Jewish support for socialism and communism, but then again saying Jews support multiculturalism is like saying ol' whitey supports socialism, when it's just many university students wearing sandals and smoking cannabis that actually do. But I totally agree with you on multiculturalism destroying the foundations or 'smashing the pillars' of European societies.
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Fair assumption

However, I'm not a neo-conservative though just regular silly ol' Liberal Conservative, I just believe Israel is fighting for the values we fight for too, and that should be comended
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