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WHAT IS NATIONAL-ANARCHISM?

Q. Why ‘national’ anarchism? Surely nationalism is incompatible with anarchic principles?

A. National-Anarchists do not support nationalism in the sense that we look to artificial nation-states or borders and boundaries. In a more realistic sense we are Indo-Europeans and therefore part of an ethnic heritage that includes not only Europe but also countries like Iran, Afghanistan, India and Tibet. Indeed, we base our ‘national’ outlook upon a much broader interpretation, not on the limited parochial attitudes of nineteenth-century imperialism. When we speak of nationhood we are referring to its tribal and organic implications. Therefore our concept of the word ‘national’ relates not to territory but to the racial identity which is a natural facet of all peoples.

Q. So do you support some kind of Eurasian superstate?

A. No. We believe in political, social and economic decentralisation. In other words, we wish to see a positive downward trend whereby all bureaucratic concepts such as the UN, NATO, the EU, the World Bank and even nation-states like England and Germany are eradicated and consequently replaced by autonomous village-communities. However, given that National-Anarchist communities will always be regarded by the Establishment as some kind of fifth column - and, in all likelihood, infiltrated and crushed - it may be necessary to migrate to areas which currently lie completely outside of Western jurisdiction.

Q. Are National-Anarchists racist?

A. Certainly not. Our vision comes from a love of our own kind and a genuine respect for others. This stance is totally at odds with racial hatred and is fundamentally based upon the realities of self-determination for all peoples. Furthermore, we do not subscribe to a white supremacist agenda or wish to enforce our worldview on others. National-Anarchists are racial separatists and wish to build links with like-minded individuals and organisations regardless of their racial or ethnic background. Racial miscegenation endangers mankind in the same way that hunting and pollution threaten both the environment and the animal kingdom. Together with our comrades around the world, we are seeking to preserve the natural condition of humankind.

Q. So do you plan to outlaw mixed-race relationships?

A. Not at all. These are issues which must be decided by those concerned, although we do remain adamant that such practices remain outside of our own communities.

Q. But what if people disagree with your ideas?

A. Fine. We have no problem with that. As long as they do not prevent us from occupying our own space and land in which to live according to our own principles and beliefs. Attempting to interfere with our way of life or seeking to prevent us from living in our own anarchistic communities is fascist and authoritarian. We do not wish to persecute others or bend them to our will. But if our opponents are not prepared to respect our freedom and establish their own communities elsewhere, we will not hesitate to defend ourselves accordingly.

Q. How do National-Anarchists intend to pursue their objectives?

A. The Capitalist System is dependent upon the constant acquisition of resources for its own survival. In years to come, however, International Capitalism will slowly disintegrate in the same way that the Roman Empire - which also specialised in expansionism and the control of the periphery - finally collapsed under the weight of its own greed and ambition. Therefore we must hasten its demise by encouraging revolution on the periphery and, thus, depriving the urban centres of their valuable resources. Once we empower the exploited peoples in the so-called Third World, we can finally slice off the tentacles of Capitalism one by one until the very core of political and economic power is completely eradicated. Destroy from within and create from without, that is the very essence of National-Anarchism.

Q. But the centres of power are mainly in Europe and North America, so what will become of the West?

A. Who cares! The whole concept of Western civilisation has been built upon exploitation and greed. Moreover, it is an historical progression which has taken mankind away from its primordial condition and led to the enrichment of the few at the expense of the many.

Q. But surely this process will lead to technological regression?

A. Of course. National-Anarchists are not opposed to technology per se - or at least those forms which do not harm the environment - but it remains a fact that once the internationalist system begins to wither away and people start to return to a more natural lifestyle, the factories will stand idle and therefore nobody will be on hand to produce computers, televisions and other luxury items. People will be forced to live without cars and supermarkets, chat shows and telephones, vibrators and central heating. Eventually this will lead to a more leisurely way of life, simply because on average hunter-gatherers work something like two hours a day in order to satisfy their basic needs. But it would be wrong to suppose that National-Anarchism is deliberately advocating a more primitivist lifestyle, on the contrary, we merely predict that it is inevitable and that people must face up to it. It remains to be seen just how far this process will go.

Q. What is the way forward for National-Anarchists?

A. We will continue to forge links with other opponents of globalisation in the hope that, eventually, we will become one of the makers and shapers of the developing anti-Capitalist movement. So in this regard we extend the hand of friendship and co-operation to all like-minded peoples both in Europe and around the world.
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Kind regards to the National Anarchists, specifically Troy Southgate, for letting us explore the idea of National Anarchism here at Folk and Faith! Those that now lay claims to the title of 'Anarchist,' and yet seek to deny others the right to form autonomous and separatist communites are not only unanarchistic, but are perhaps the only real 'Fascists' and 'Racists' left.
As with other noble thoughts; i.e. orthodox Christianity, Nationalism, Socialism, Self Rule, to name a few, it is only a matter of time before it gets hijacked by the destroyers of culture. Often times as a result of such, the entire idea gets thrown out rather than simply throwing out the defilers of truth. It is hightime that the Anarchist title was reclaimed, and in comparison to typical Right Wing hollywood Nazi's and Left Wing Marxists, National Anarchy is indeed a breath of fresh air! -FNF!-

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Anyone who declares himself anarchist should be treated with utmost suspicion.
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It has the feel of "Lord of the Rings". The Indo-European world will be transformed into some kind of Middle Earth. I find the ideas of National Syndicalism much more attractive and practical.
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Well, after all, state and nation are not same thing you can love your race and your country and hate the state. P.e., Bakhunin considered logical that Germans were patriots.

Related links:

S Y N T H E S I S - National-Anarchism: A Brief Dialogue with a Leftist
Anarquía Nacional (Spanish)

P.S.: no joke, Carnyx thinks he's a National-Anarchist
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I think a National Anarchist world could turn into a heaven for Jews. Everyone else would be broken into small units and the Jews could jump around like kids in the room full of coloured balls at IKEA:


The United States is already almost a National Anarchist state but doesn't know it yet. They don't know what a normal nation-state really looks like.
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Well, modern nowaday states are serving Jews very well.
I think rejection to states is referring to states we have today, and not every state; in this case it would be anarchism without "nacional" or further considerations.
BTW putting this post doesn't mean I share nacional-anarchism position, just promoting debate and nothing else. What I don't want is today states obviously.


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I think you're confusing with "right-wing" anarchism or, simply, liberalism: letting capitalism to take total control without state intervention in economic trends and so on. But this is again the contrary that nacional-anarchism claims to defend: a nation-state based on racial and cultural impplications; both capitalism ("right-wing") and socialism ("left-wing") are the opposite.
And contrary to NS without hierarchies and other "state vices".
Other thing is that this could be possible of course.
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a nation-state based on racial and cultural impplications; both capitalism ("right-wing") and socialism ("left-wing") are the opposite.
And contrary to NS without hierarchies and other "state vices".
Other thing is that this could be possible of course.
The essence of anarchism is that it is against state as such.
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Well, modern nowaday states are serving Jews very well.
I think rejection to states is referring to states we have today, and not every state; in this case it would be anarchism without "nacional" or further considerations.
BTW putting this post doesn't mean I share nacional-anarchism position, just promoting debate and nothing else. What I don't want is today states obviously.
I'm glad you posted this article, it is good to see as many of these ideas as possible.

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I think you're confusing with "right-wing" anarchism or, simply, liberalism: letting capitalism to take total control without state intervention in economic trends and so on. But this is again the contrary that nacional-anarchism claims to defend: a nation-state based on racial and cultural impplications; both capitalism ("right-wing") and socialism ("left-wing") are the opposite.
And contrary to NS without hierarchies and other "state vices".
Other thing is that this could be possible of course.
I was thinking of the United States society more than its economic system. Compared to Europe it is a sea of 300 million individuals and small groups who offer little resistance to any well organized outsider. That's why a nationalism built on strong social, religious and co-operative economic groups and an effective state is much safer. It is far harder to divide and conquer.
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A well-written and interesting thread, Breogan. But I cannot deny, as a convinced National Socialist and a follower of a corporate representation, that I’m opposed to all these ideas, which I in fact find incompatible with the Indo-European way of living.

A strong decentralisation of the State will only result in a major failure and degeneration of the Indo-Europeans. I actually don’t believe, certainly not in today’s societies, that our people are strong enough to survive in this world, without the help of national states. Truly we need, if we are to become anarchists, a very strong, mutual war-religion, that’ll unify us under one banner. But strong hierarchy, religion and military aren’t, as far as I know, compatible with the idea of anarchism. Anarchism is only a bad solution for today’s problem. The National-State is, in my own eyes, a construction that consolidates and organizes the citizens in to one – with a common culture and heritage. The State itself will guarantee the people safety, laws, freedom and welfare.
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There's no such thing as national - anarchism. The anarchism theory is an internationalistic one, it cannot be nationalistic at the same time.
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There's no such thing as national - anarchism. The anarchism theory is an internationalistic one, it cannot be nationalistic at the same time.
Not really, what is internationalistic is the Scientific Socialism (Communism), while the Rural Socialism isn't.

The alleged target for both of them is the destruction of the state. For the Communists this would come after a world wide proletariat dictatorship, where all classes had been destroyed, and where workers would manage to maintain a fair and productive society without the help of rulers and of an administrative state, therefore the State would be unnecessary.

On the other hand, the Anarchists focus in the independence of small units of land, and through a process of rural collectivisation, to maintain an autharchic, productive and rural society.

Both of them follow a similar goal, but the way is different. Communism focuses on industrial societies and its way to achieve the uthopic society is through internationalism. They need a strong state to achieve their final goal.

Anarchism focuses on rural societies, and its way to achieve their final goal is through "cantonalism" and through the destruction of the state since the start of the revolution.

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Rather the opposite.

The National Anarchist doctrine proposes decentralization and small-scale community life based on kinship ties, rather than pacifism/internationalism.
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You can't take the power of the State. If you do that, you'll take the power of the nation. One nation cannot exist without a state, in other words - the state is one of the instruments that unite the nation. Without the state you'll have tribes, not nations. Therefore, rural socialism or not, anarchism = internationalism.
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