Ivan Georgiev and the Bulgarian National-Radical Party (BNRP)

[Rodozashtitnik]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Rodozashtitnik, that's interesting. Not the first time that something like this is known to happen.

Could expand your views on Ataka? Are there other alternatives in Bulgaria, even if they don't have parliamentary representation?

Well, right now there's no strong nationalist party. Fifteen years ago there was a strong nationalist party called BNRP - Bulgarian National-Radical Party, lead by doctor Ivan Georgiev. But the commies destroyed it and now BNRP is a small party with no future. There was one Christian-Radical party, but now I think it does not even exist. Right now there is several organizations, but they are neo - paganic which means - an absolute nonsense and a spiritual disunity.
Ataka is a creation of the communist and there's why they walk into the Parliament. I was a member of Ataka and I was disgusted of all that Stallin like communism there.

[Menydh]

Do you have any pointers to Ivan Georgiev and the BNRP? I can't find anything, just a few comments.

[Rodozashtitnik]

Before the president selections he was interviewed about Ataka and the situation in Bulgaria. But it's in Bulgarian.

[Menydh]

Well, perhaps you could translate some of it?

[Rodozashtitnik]

Ivan Georgiev was born in 1941. In 1955 he became a leader of the youth BNRP. He was arrested and put in jail. In 1962 he was set free, because of the Gagarin's flight. Basically he said that Volen Siderov is a "former" agent of the "national state of security" and he was given a lot of money to march into the Parliament and to become the "new Hitler". Siderov knows Ivan Georgiev very well, but he doesn not want to do anything with the radical-nationalist. He is a communist. The state of security made him a "nationalist", published his books (where Siderov spits on Hitler) and etc. Ivan Georgiev said that the state of security wanted him to do it's job in the early 90s, but the doctor declined their offer and they put Trojan horses in his party and destroyed it.

If you want to know something else, just ask.

[Reltih]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Do you have any pointers to Ivan Georgiev and the BNRP? I can't find anything, just a few comments.

Dr. Ivan Georgiev


He's a man of an excellent mind. Valuable reflection of him:

"Болшевизмът, либерализмът и демокрацията са маски на една и съща групировка, стремяща се към завладяване и към световно господство. САЩ е тяхното острие, смята лидерът на българските националисти"

"The Bolshevism, the Liberalism and the Democracy are masks of one and the same grouping, aiming for seizure and towards global hold. USA is their edge, thinks the leader of the bulgarian nationalists"

More from him in bulgarian here:
Ä-ð Èâàí Ãåîðãèåâ: Âìåñòî áúëãàðñêîòî öàðñòâî Ñèìåîí âúçñòàíîâè Îñìàíñêàòà èìïåðèÿ

Well, perhaps you could translate some of it?

I was in process of translating when I saw your ask! And who says that there is no fate !!

[Rodozashtitnik]

Originally Posted by Bograchev Mahil

Dr. Ivan Georgiev

"The Bolshevism, the Liberalism and the Democracy are masks of one and the same grouping, aiming for seizure and towards global hold. USA is their edge, thinks the leader of the bulgarian nationalists"

Damn right!

[Menydh]

Thank you both of you. He sounds like a reasonable man indeed.

Any idea if his political ideals are influenced by earlier ideologies, Bulgarian or not? Could you give a brief outline of his political views? And, what is the level of activity of him and his party today (even if low) and what would be his chances to achieve political growth in the future?

[Rodozashtitnik]

Yes, he e is smart. He has one of the biggest libraries in Bulgaria. What do you mean by "earlier ideologies"? If you mean bulgarian nationalsocialism, I think you are right. He is a monarchist also. Right now BNRP is almost dead, there's no money, media appearances or any activity of the party, at least I didn't know any. Doctor Georgiev is 60 years old. It's going to be difficult to endure something or to make it happen. Last year he tried to revive BNRP with one former member of Ataka, who is in the Parliament, but to no avail.

[Marulus]

Originally Posted by Rodozashtitnik

Yes, he e is smart. He has one of the biggest libraries in Bulgaria. What do you mean by "earlier ideologies"? If you mean bulgarian nationalsocialism, I think you are right. He is a monarchist also. Right now BNRP is almost dead, there's no money, media appearances or any activity of the party, at least I didn't know any. Doctor Georgiev is 60 years old. It's going to be difficult to endure something or to make it happen. Last year he tried to revive BNRP with one former member of Ataka, who is in the Parliament, but to no avail.

Did he ever explain what possible benefits he sees in monarchy?

[Rodozashtitnik]

I don't know, but every real nationalist in Bulgaria respects the time of our Tzar Boris III his politics and Orthodox believe. I'm not going to say something like that for his masonic son though. Every nationalist in Bulgaria should be monarchist, because that is our tradition as an Orthodox country.

[Marulus]

Originally Posted by Rodozashtitnik

I don't know, but every real nationalist in Bulgaria respects the time of our Tzar Boris III his politics and Orthodox believe. I'm not going to say something like that for his masonic son though. Every nationalist in Bulgaria should be monarchist, because that is our tradition as an Orthodox country.

So he supports it only because the time of the tsar Boris III. is seen as some golden age by the Bulgarian history?

I myself am not in favour of monarchy, but people of every single country should be allowed to decide what kind of nationalistic government they want. If Bulgarians want monarchy, then it is up to them to decide. It does not mean that all other countries must be monarchies though...Different European countries should be allowed to have the political system, which they prefer, according to their own traditions.

What are his views on EU and NATO? Does he favour Bulgaria's accession to these organization? I suppose he doesn't. And views on economy? Is he in favour of distributism?

[Rodozashtitnik]

He likes monarchy because of Tsar Boris III and because it's a Bulgarians' tradition. Right now we can't have that kind of state, because there's no monarch. Tsar Boris son - Simeon is a mason and his party is full of commies. You talk about european countries. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the monarchy is a tradition among all countries.

Ivan Georgiev is against NATO and EU and Bulgaria's incorporation. His views of economy are: a mixed economy between socialism and capitalism with strong protectionism of Bulgarian producers. Almost the same economy as in late 30s - authoritarian government.

[Reltih]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

..... And, what is the level of activity of him and his party today (even if low) and what would be his chances to achieve political growth in the future?

Zero activity - no chances.
And his alternatives -Siderov and Ataka are rather to be pitied than taken seriously as respectable right wing.

[Menydh]

José Antonio Primo de Rivera, who was an Aristocrat himself, spoke of the Monarchy as an institution gloriously deceased. I don't even agree with him there, since he refered to the end of the reign of Alfonso XIII. It would have been more appropriate if he had refered to the end of the Hispanic Monarcs, after which foreign interests tainted the Spains.

However, it is also true that monarchy is a more natural system to man than others. And in fact other political systems often seek to perpetuate themselves in a similar fashion to that of monarchies.

One problem with monarchy can be explained with what you tell about Dr. Georgiev. He is 60 years old and I assume that he doesn't find anyone who can relief him. Therefore, there is no continuity.

[Reltih]

One problem with monarchy can be explained with what you tell about Dr. Georgiev. He is 60 years old and I assume that he doesn't find anyone who can relief him. Therefore, there is no continuity.

His ideas still live on.

[Feldmarschall]

Bulgarian National-Radical party are pathetic loosers!
Don't deserve any talk to them!!They are dead.
Their leader Ivan Georgiev is an insane man.

[Feldmarschall]

The other comic organization is "Bulgarian National Alliance"!
Their leader - Boyan Rassate beats and kills 2 men!
But he was protected by the communists and that's why he doesn't
go to the jail!]
These two small and worthless parties are shame for the Bulgarian nationalism!