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Hello,

We are the Bulgarian Nationalists from ATAKA party. Thaks to ATAKA and thanks to Romanian Nationalists Party, the European Nationalists were able to create in January an official Parliamnetary Group (fraction) in the European Parliament :

see:

European Parliament - News - Headlines - Article - New Bulgarian and Romanian MEPs modify composition of Parliament

This is our Vice-Chair of the Party ATAKA :

Your MEPs*:*Introduction*:*Dimitar STOYANOV

And You are welcome to our sites :

ÀÒÀÊÀ - íà÷àëî

and

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Âåñòíèê ÀÒÀÊÀ - Èíäåêñ

For now in Bulgarian and in Russian, but soon - in English too.
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Hello, and welcome. Could you give us an overview of the ideology of ATAKA --both with respect to Bulgaria and to its relation with the rest of Europe-- and of its political programme?
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Some ATAKA related articles in English:
HITLER OF BULGARIA IS SÝDEROV / Diplomatic Observer
Far Right Storms Ahead in Bulgaria
http://www.bghelsinki.org/obektiv/2006/131/131-01.pdf

It seems that this young party has caused concern among human rights groups, but not yet won much acclaim among Nationalists in Europe.
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Thank you Ljubomir. Now I know what the usual suspects think of Ataka. As if that wasn't expected.

We only need an internal view from Ataka itself to compare.
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This declaration by the representatives of all the other groups of the European Parliament is a witch hunt. Shame on them. Isn't it official discrimination that they are doing, on the grounds of different political views? What a bunch of hypocrites!

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I can't tell. Do you have more information on that?

One of the articles say that other Bulgarian politicians who "describe themselves as nationalist" find Ataka's rhetoric surprisingly extreme. Maybe, but who are these self-described nationalist politicians and which are their positions on same issues, compared to Ataka?
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Some ATAKA related articles in English:
HITLER OF BULGARIA IS SÝDEROV / Diplomatic Observer
Far Right Storms Ahead in Bulgaria
http://www.bghelsinki.org/obektiv/2006/131/131-01.pdf

It seems that this young party has caused concern among human rights groups, but not yet won much acclaim among Nationalists in Europe.
Thank You, Ljubomir,

You gave a perfect example of the populated issues of the enemies of ATAKA party. These enemies often expose their own fears and this way, they want to cover the sad truth for the Bulgarian Politics and social life.

I will give the exact response to the question for the ATAKA politic platform in the next quote.
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Hello, and welcome. Could you give us an overview of the ideology of ATAKA --both with respect to Bulgaria and to its relation with the rest of Europe-- and of its political programme?
The sad truth for the Bulgarian Politics and social life, is that the corrupted politics (from Socialist and Turkish Ethnic Party in the power) are closely connected to the incredible powerful mafia (Bulgarian, Russian and Serb mafia) and control all the money flow, including the money from the European Funds, from the drug traffic and form the prostitution, as well as from casino/hotels and quasi-illegal real estate "boom" in the tourism.

So, more than 165 assassinations on the mafia basis of the known, rich people have take the place for the last 3 years (no one of these assassinations was investigated 100% by the police - most of the cases are closed without any juridical action). Only foe example - the richest Bulgaria TAYKOON - Ilia Pavlov with more than 1,200 millions of EUR) was killed, and no results from the police investigation was announced.
Strange, but in the same time - next year the widow of I.Pavlov was announced to own only 600 millions EUR, so - the killers, I suspect the political ruling party, was able to take back the underground money, given to that man - I.Pavlov, to play with them as a marionette.

There is more than 20 assassinations of a normal Bulgarian citizens, done every year by the gangster gipsy groups, with NO action by the police side.

Many Bulgarian girls are rapped and murdered by these wild gipsy criminals, without any punishment.

Thousands of Bulgarian homes and property is stolen every month by the gypsy and other criminal groups, covered by the policemen and by the corrupted people in the municipality and government level.

80% of the crime cases in Bulgaria are in result of the Gipsy population (taking less than 5% of the total population in the Country).
So, the crime factor for the Gipsy minority is about 100 times bigger than for the Bulgarian people.

The gipsy people kill their own children, when are hard drunk, they sell their babies for money in Greece and France, they are generators of prostitution and low-level criminality, and also of large number of the health and sanitary problems in the cities of Bulgaria.

So, ATAKA party was created to eliminate the tyranny of the non-Bulgarian population, supported by some organization as a Helsinki Bulgarian Committee, and also, ATAKA was crated as a unique hope for the poor Bulgarians, living with only 45 EUR per month!! (While a normal car in Sofia costs around 20,000 EUR and a normal flat can be obtained for 40,000 EUR, and the rent is 250 EUR per flat per month).

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(I will translate the ATAKA Party program and I will post it here soon)
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Thank you Ljubomir. Now I know what the usual suspects think of Ataka. As if that wasn't expected.

We only need an internal view from Ataka itself to compare.
This declaration by the representatives of all the other groups of the European Parliament is a witch hunt. Shame on them. Isn't it official discrimination that they are doing, on the grounds of different political views? What a bunch of hypocrites!

I can't tell. Do you have more information on that?

One of the articles say that other Bulgarian politicians who "describe themselves as nationalist" find Ataka's rhetoric surprisingly extreme. Maybe, but who are these self-described nationalist politicians and which are their positions on same issues, compared to Ataka?
Some preliminary view - but not so neutral

National Union Attack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



And the 20 principals of ATAKA Party (in Bulgarian):

Ð?ТÐ?КÐ? - Пловдив - Официална Ñ?траница на ОбщинÑ?ки Ñ?бор - Пловдив » Принципи



And my unpretentiose translation (probably 90% accurate):

1. Bulgaria is mono-national, monolithic country (state), undividable due to any principal as follow : religious, ethnic, culture e.g. Any difference in religion or social /ethnic origin cannot be considered as higher than the Bulgarian nationality. If any person is intended to do that consideration, will be considered as non-Bulgarian and cannot be more connected to the Bulgarian Nationality and Bulgarian State.

2. The official (the only!) language in Bulgaria is BULGARIAN, and the use of any other languages in the National mass-media, paid by the State budget is prohibited.

3. Any mockery and non-respect actions (also any slandering) against the Bulgarian National Sacred Symbols, will be a subject of strong sanctions by the side of the Bulgarian State.

4. The national health, social security, education and material and culture prosperity are in a high priority for the State Institution. The mentioned issues are more important for the State than any political, military/defense and any other international agreements or organization requirements.

5. The Bulgarian State, is obligated to ensure the health care, social security, education and material and culture prosperity for every Bulgarian citizen by all the attributes of the State Power.

6. The Bulgarian investors, entrepreneur and producer has a privilege, confront the foreign one, at least till the living standard in Bulgaria will reach the average European live standard level. The Bulgarian production facilities, commercial activities and bank activity has to be under Bulgarian control.

7. All the taxes and incomes (salaries) in Bulgaria, have to be adapted to the ability and to the needs of the Bulgarian citizens (but not to the IMF or World Bank requirements).

8. All the privatization deals have to be a subject of the State revision.

9. All the Bulgarian business activity, run by Bulgarians, private or public (state owned) has to be supported by the Bulgarian State (including out of the Bulgarian territory)

10. A general revision of the State Budget distribution, in direction to the benefit of the Bulgarian Citizens, not to the State Administration. Serious decreasing of the number of State administration members.

11. Dedicated State program for the demography improvement of the Bulgarian population.

12. Immediate disengagement from Iraq military operations.

13. Canceling the alliance agreement with NATO. Neutrality, no more foreign military bases on the Bulgarian territory.

14. Organization of the referendums for the decisions, concern at least 10% of the population in Bulgaria.

15. Bulgarian agriculture lend is no more a subject of selling to any foreign owner at any condition.

16. Re-negotiation of the closed items with EU and changing of the non-favorable for Bulgaria side clauses. Canceling of the agreement for the closing of the Nuclear Power Station in Kozlodui.

17. Canceling of any dependency and any agreement with IMF and World Bank.

18. Initiating of operation “Mani pulite” – “Clean Hands”. Investigation of all the crime tycoons, and all the deals with politics people involved for violation of the rules (including the Foreign Debt deals)

19. Confiscation of the illegally piled possessions and creating on the base oaf the confiscated goods a special Health Fund for non paid Health services. Suing of the National Traitors.

20. Officially determination of the minimal labor force price – price per hour, in conformation to the European average hour payment.
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Ataka(Attack) is Bulgarian nationalist party!!
All stupid liars must shut up !
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No offence, but they do seem sort of extreme, like nutcase-extreme.
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The nazi gift. Hitler's National Socialism has spread like a virus harming Nationalism nearly everywhere.
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Ataka(Attack) is Bulgarian nationalist party!!
All stupid liars must shut up !
Who is lying? In this thread, we have all shown sincere interest in the party.
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In Bulgaria, Attack party has few enemy medias, who describe it as anti-democratic!!
They are stuppid liars!!!
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Siderov is anti-Catholic, what a pity!

"The fact that he dealt with enmity and hate towards Catholic and Protestant Churches"

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Siderov is not anti-Catholic.
He is against mulslim expansion in Bulgaria and all the Europe!

In Bulgaria 85% of the people are Orthodox, but we have respect to the catholic christians.
What's the problem with my nickname?

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I read his speech in Parlament, in Bulgarian. It seems pretty mild to me, not very "extremist"...

I like the fact he advocates Bulgarian neutrality, is against NATO and doesn't want foreign military bases on Bulgarian soil.

I wish we had such politicians (who would advocate neutrality) in Croatia too!

He is on a good path, but should take care not to spoil the whole thing with "Nutzi" rhetoric and reminescences...
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But The Nazi Germany creates Great Croatia and Great Bulgaria!
How you describe this fact, prometheus?
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Nazi Germany created Great Croatia, but at the expenses of Slovenians and Serbians, that it is unacceptable.
Great Bulgaria included several regions where there were no Bulgarians (Macedonia, parts of Greece).

By the way, you should take into mind that Bulgaria managed to keep itself quite independent from the Nazi line of action (for example they had very little part in persecution of Jews).