EU: Possible Ban on Nazi Symbols

[Menydh]

EU considers Nazi symbols ban
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/eu....ap/index.html

BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) -- The European Union's top justice official was considering Monday whether the 25-nation bloc should ban the use of Nazi symbols after Britain's Prince Harry wore a swastika armband to a costume party.

Franco Frattini, the EU's justice and home affairs commissioner, said he was open to discussing the issue at a Jan. 27 meeting of EU justice ministers.

"It may be worth looking into the possibility of a total ban, a Europe-wide ban," his spokesman Friso Roscam Abbing told reporters. "Commissioner Frattini shares the general feeling of opprobrium on the use of the swastika and other Nazi symbols."

The call came after several German conservatives, socialists and liberal democrats in the European Parliament urged a European ban following a scandal last week over photos of Harry, third in line to the British throne, wearing a Nazi outfit at a costume party.

German Socialist Helmut Kuhne called Harry a "royal idiot" for not knowing the consequences and World War II history linked to the Nazi swastika.

Germany already bans such symbols.

Roscam Abbing said Frattini would urge EU ministers to use the swastika incident to push for agreement on EU-wide rules to combat racism, fascism and anti-Semitism.

A proposal was introduced two years ago but discussions have failed to make headway.

Roscam Abbing said officials would take care not to violate freedom of expression in devising such a ban.

Frattini's decision to look into an EU-wide ban could further embarrass Queen Elizabeth II, who is to lead British commemorations of the Holocaust in London later this month.

[Prinz Eugen]

What kind of democracy is that bans symbols?Or it's not a democracy but dictatorship in disguishe?

[Faísca]

This is ridiculous.

Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
~ Jorge Augustín Nicolás Ruiz de Santillana

[Menydh]

Ridiculous or not, people should take good notice of these things because no matter if this one is approved or blocked, you can expect a trend into that direction in the future.

[Turbamulta]

Impressive strength of Hitler's shadow...

[Silas]

and other Nazi symbols.

I wonder what these symbols is. Any symbol that a nationalist party is using or just the old nazi symbols that were used by the NSDAP. Look out for the "demokratur".

[Heretik]

Originally Posted by Kvasir

I wonder what these symbols is. Any symbol that a nationalist party is using or just the old nazi symbols that were used by the NSDAP. Look out for the "demokratur".

I tend to believe that various SS symbols will be also banned, Celtic cross (oooomph!!!) and other symbols that represent anything that could be linked to nazis.

[Menydh]

If the celtic cross is being banned, then Kvasir you should stop wondering because it doesn't really matter. Theoretically that should enable them to use it as an excuse to go against Nationalists for using any symbol.

[Heretik]

Originally Posted by Iñigo Montoya

If the celtic cross is being banned, then Kvasir you should stop wondering because it doesn't really matter. Theoretically that should enable them to use it as an excuse to go against Nationalists for using any symbol.

That's their point. Eradicating nationalism in any possible way and giving us various multi-culti crap.

[bocian]

To be honest, I don't mind Hitler-era symbols being banned. I just wish commie symbols would be looked at in the same light.

[Heretik]

Originally Posted by bocian

To be honest, I don't mind Hitler-era symbols being banned. I just wish commie symbols would be looked at in the same light.

Well, that's the problem here in Croatia. They banned all of III. reich symbols but they won't change communist symbols. Some people are pissed off because of it.

[Arawn]

Brussels should stick to regulating bananas.

Theres tons of irony here though.

[Aistulf]

Originally Posted by bocian

To be honest, I don't mind Hitler-era symbols being banned. I just wish commie symbols would be looked at in the same light.

Why must it be banned in all of Europe? Why don't you just ban it in Poland then? (I know you don't have a say in anything, but you seem to agree with this foolish decision).

Not that I wear those symbols, but banning those symbols is rediculous; symbols of the past. Yet, like others said in this thread, communist symbols seem to still be allowed and even endorsed (like those «СССР» ["SSSR"; USSR] and Che Guevara T-shirts).

[Heretik]

Che was not a commie but a revolutionary!

And a blood-thirsty fuck. Have you noticed that he was in more than 5 wars... Pardon my french, revolutions, not wars!

[Zyklop]

Originally Posted by Kvasir

I wonder what these symbols is. Any symbol that a nationalist party is using or just the old nazi symbols

No, in Germany it´s already enough when the symbols can be confused with NS symbols.

[Almost a Christian]

No, no, no all this banning stuff is just plainly ludicrous...

If the swastika were to disappear tomorrow I'd give a discreet salute & get over it.....

Its this sickening mentality of fear of the E.U that bothers me.....

Its seems the power of rational thought & logical argument is an insufficient
weapon to oppose the power of the swastika.....it seems instead they have to resort to the club to do so.....perhaps they're afraid that they might find a residue of truth in this iconic symbol.....????

...but out I doubt this'll be passed.....once the E.U army of bureaucrats get thier teeth into this it'll never see the light of day......not through sudden revelation of wisdom you understand but their trademark incompetency is what we'll have to thank!

[Biggles]

You cant help but wonder if some people of a certain religious group are involved in this...

[Biggles]

Originally Posted by Iñigo Montoya

Roscam Abbing said Frattini would urge EU ministers to use the swastika incident to push for agreement on EU-wide rules to combat racism, fascism and anti-Semitism.

Ha, we now see the reason....

[Xiongnu]

I wonder why communist symbols are not included in the proposed ban, considering deaths resulting from communism run in the hundred millions.