EU: Possible Ban on Nazi Symbols

[marius]

Originally Posted by bocian

To be honest, I don't mind Hitler-era symbols being banned. I just wish commie symbols would be looked at in the same light.

Very good point. It is time for the "nutzis" to disappear. Nationalists do not mean "nutzis". The same goes for communists.

[Vitor]

Roscam Abbing said Frattini would urge EU ministers to use the swastika incident to push for agreement on EU-wide rules to combat racism, fascism and anti-Semitism

If this means promoting multiculture in all EU countries, then....no luck, It will increase racism.

Albania is allmoust lost for serbia...that crap european politicians may even offer that territory to albania!


Now I undertand some portuguese politics, they saw the problem having only people from the ex-portuguese african territories as immigrants, they oponed the doors to moldavians, ukranians, etc...
Great Idea!
At least they integrate easier!

Yes, even without knowing the portuguese language, the kids that arrived here from that countries after 1 year already speaks fluently portuguese, the africans even those who born here, still don't speak perfect portuguese, I believe it's the closed communities they live in (guetos), so there is not much relations outside their's place (might be good).

So if we have to get immigrants then choose wisely!
had people that can and want integration!

I prefer moldavians and ukranians any day...
I don't understand why germans and franchies and etc...don't want this ones instead of "others".

It will create less future problems, more integration (they are christians), and the portuguese loves them...blacks are only praised by an minority!

They don't integrate and are potencial tension builders because of that...
why they don't integrate?

It's not only portuguese fault, the eastern european childreen have excelent results in school, even with parents that do not speak fluent portuguese...
that is amazing!
I guess it's the guetos and let loose the kids mind of african parents.

[Vitor]

Originally Posted by marius

Very good point. It is time for the "nutzis" to disappear. Nationalists do not mean "nutzis". The same goes for communists.

Yes we don't need that symbolism!
We don't have to be hatefull to "others" also, hate is bad, it shapes the mind!
we must be objectve!

Hitler was not a good ethical example, he only had mindless hate for the jews...
If he had only sent those jews out without killing them...if he didn't want to conquer all the european continent, then we would have a very dfferent europe right now.

That guy (Hitler) should not be praised, he allmoust destroyed nationalism!
I hate Hitler!

Jews were not a problem, the germans in those days were not threatened to extinction like they are now...

A False etnic 1930 problem hides the actual true problem!

[Arawn]

No, in Germany it´s already enough when the symbols can be confused with NS symbols.

Eh, no such thing as context then i take it?
Its a good thing the cathedral of Amiens wasn't built in Germany then.

[Graeme]

How can you ban the swastika? It existed long before NS or Germany as a State. It is a quasi religious symbol in the Hindu and Buddhist beliefs.

The thing about the Nazis is that they were good with the symbols. The SS letters are imaginative. I am no Nazi but I find their symbols quite interesting. Symbols are not dogmas or creeds. If Nazism was invented today instead of back in the early 20th century, all those symbols and maxims like Arbeit mach frei would be copyrighted and everyone wanting to use them would have to pay the holders for that use. Think of it. Star Wars used Nazi symbols or dress forms. The uniforms, helmets and many other things were purloined by Lucas for his films and he paid nothing for it.