Pork soup becomes political in France

[Laocoon]

Pork soup becomes political in France
By ELAINE GANLEY
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

PARIS -- Pig's tail, pig's feet and other pig parts, all tossed into a pot with turnips, carrots and onions. Perfumed with smoked bacon and served steaming hot. Delicious!

But there's trouble brewing in this broth.

Small groups linked to the extreme right are ladling pork soup to France's homeless. Critics and some officials denounce the charity as discriminatory: because it contains pork, the soup is off-limits for Muslims.

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Pork soup is an age-old staple of the rural heartland from which all the French, at least in the national imagination, are said to spring.

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The groups dishing up the soup say their victuals are no more than traditional French cuisine and deny they are serving up a message of racial hatred - a crime in France - or that they would refuse soup to a hungry Muslim or Jew.

In Strasbourg, pork soup was banned this month after officials deemed it could disrupt public order.

"Schemes with racial subtexts must be denounced," said a statement by Strasbourg Mayor Fabienne Keller.

More than a dozen police surrounded volunteers at a recent soup distribution at Paris' Montparnasse train station. Once police determined there was pork in the broth, they ordered the 10-gallon container sealed because the group had no permit.

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Many of the homeless lining up for pork soup seemed oblivious to the debate.

"All associations in Paris give out ham or bacon. It's like roast beef in Britain," said 45-year-old former farm worker Daniel, who declined to give his last name.

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Wow, I wasn't aware of the existence of Muslim/Jewish homeless...

[Silas]

What´s he next thing they are gonna ban? The Beret?

[wilpuri]

Hah I read about this one some time ago. Genius I call it!

Wow, I wasn't aware of the existence of Muslim/Jewish homeless...

Yeah, they can whine as much as they like about discrimination or whatever, but when it comes down to it, I bet my nuts there isn't a single homeless Somali in Finland.

[Milesian]

The groups dishing up the soup say their victuals are no more than traditional French cuisine and deny they are serving up a message of racial hatred - a crime in France - or that they would refuse soup to a hungry Muslim or Jew.

Why on earth would they refuse soup to a hungry Muslim or Jew?
I doubt anyone is particularly bothered whether some Muslim or Jew is fulfilling their religious obligations. Would you tell a Jew he couldn't have pork soup? I'd be delighted to serve it to him - drink up Moise!
What next? Ban selling of red meat on a Friday because it offends devout Catholics?
The only people who would refuse this soup is the Muslim or Jew themselves.

In Strasbourg, pork soup was banned this month after officials deemed it could disrupt public order

No need to ban it. Any Muslim or Jew disrupting the public order over something as trivial as a bowl of soup should simply be thrown in jail like anyone else would

And I'm looking forward for this God damned scum in Spain to put some kind of a ban on pork products. That's going to be lots of fun..

I might open an only-pork products next to a mosque.

[Aeternitas]

This discrimination/offense thing gets more and more ridiculous by the day It's almost unbelievable.

You tell me.. a long story in only a few hours, but I have the feeling that some South American Indian is about to report me for allegedly calling him a "sudaca de mierda" (shitty South American). I got a phone call today telling me that the individual is saying that I called him that name. Which I did not. At all time I was correct and polite, even if --of course-- distant. I look forward for him to try.

[Tiago]

Let them eat cake.

[Tiago]

Originally Posted by Menydh

And I'm looking forward for this God damned scum in Spain to put some kind of a ban on pork products. That's going to be lots of fun..

I might open an only-pork products next to a mosque.

There is meant to be a famous restaurant in Paris which serves dishes made solely and wholly from the pig using all cuts and brains. I have often wanted to visit but have never had the opportunity. Does anyone know this place?

[Laocoon]

Originally Posted by Kvasir

What´s he next thing they are gonna ban? The Beret?

It can't be, Beret is too cool. Is baguette Halall btw?

Originally Posted by Wilpuri

Yeah, they can whine as much as they like about discrimination or whatever, but when it comes down to it, I bet my nuts there isn't a single homeless Somali in Finland.

You right, no castration for you.

Originally Posted by Milesian

No need to ban it. Any Muslim or Jew disrupting the public order over something as trivial as a bowl of soup should simply be thrown in jail like anyone else would

Instead, that is the organizer of the soup who was arrested by the Police in Strasbourg 2 weeks ago.

Originally Posted by Menydh

And I'm looking forward for this God damned scum in Spain to put some kind of a ban on pork products. That's going to be lots of fun..

It's a shame, the Pork is the base of our alimentation afterall. Should we apologize for we eat pork?
Ever heard about Muslims owner of a supermarket in "France" who refused to sell pork products?

Originally Posted by Aeternitas

This discrimination/offense thing gets more and more ridiculous by the day It's almost unbelievable.

Then listen to this. From what a homeless said, the official associations use to give pork product to needy individuals who live in the streets.

The soup served in Strasbourg, formely called "Pork Soup" ("soupe au cochon"), has been latter renamed "Strasbourg Sausages Soup" ("soupe aux saucisses de Strasbourg"), judged less offending by the group. The society we're living in is so PC now.

Here you can find pics, video and news in French about this Soup:

http://solidarite-alsacienne.hautetfort.com/

The same initiative in Nice

http://www.soulidarieta.org/

http://www.association-sdf.com/



http://www.renaissancesociale.be/

[Faísca]

Originally Posted by Duchemin

Then listen to this. From what a homeless said, the official associations use to give pork product to needy individuals who live in the streets.

The soup served in Strasbourg, formely called "Pork Soup" ("soupe au cochon"), has been latter renamed "Strasbourg Sausages Soup" ("soupe aux saucisses de Strasbourg"), judged less offending by the group. The society we're living in is so PC now.

When I hear stories like these, I really feel happy for living in such a awkward country. No matter what those on high stands or minorities want something to be called, it can even be oficially changed, though no one will call it that. I remember a street near where I lived, the street changed its name some ten times in thirty years, I never heard no one calling it anything but «Travessa da Cadeia»...

A famous saying around here when someone says something very un-PC: It's time to call things by their names.

[quote=Duchemin]It can't be, Beret is too cool. Is baguette Halall btw? [quote]Nope, but bread is made with yeast and Semites (at least Jews, but I think that Muslims too) make it without yeast.

It's a shame, the Pork is the base of our alimentation afterall. Should we apologize for we eat pork?

In Spain it is common knowledge that pork is the only animal which you can eat every single part of it. Do a google images search for "cochinillo segoviano" (Segovia's baby suckling pork) to see heaven on earth. "morro"? (the face) I love it! "manitas de cerdo"? (little hands, the feet) Delicious! Not to speak of all the dried cured derivative from the pork..

One evidence for the Holy Office to single out a "judaizante" (false converse) was that he would refuse to eat pork derived products and someone saw him doing so.

The soup served in Strasbourg, formely called "Pork Soup" ("soupe au cochon"), has been latter renamed "Strasbourg Sausages Soup" ("soupe aux saucisses de Strasbourg"), judged less offending by the group. The society we're living in is so PC now.

Call this a dream but.. what about setting up a business franchise throughout Europe of pork derived products? Spanish cured ham and chorizo, Italian mortadella, German wursts, ..others... uh.. French fries to accompany the meals?

Oh.. and a popular saying in Spain to say that every pig will have to pay for his deeds sooner or later: a todo cerdo le llega su San Martín. Literally, "St. Martin's day arrives to all pigs". St. Martin's day is the traditional day in Spanish villages for the yearly killing of pigs.

[Laocoon]

Originally Posted by Tiago

There is meant to be a famous restaurant in Paris which serves dishes made solely and wholly from the pig using all cuts and brains. I have often wanted to visit but have never had the opportunity. Does anyone know this place?

Maybe this one : Au pied de cochon

http://www.pieddecochon.com/

From what I've been told lately, restaurants are expansives, so the prices seem in the range.

[Ederico]

Such events do not invoke racial hatred in any serious person, but indignation and condemnation of the idiocy of people who issue certain statements and who enact certain legislations.

I'm hungry, is pork being served?

[Gil]

Originally Posted by Johannes de León

A famous saying around here when someone says something very un-PC: It's time to call things by their names.

Eheh, you must mean "chamar os bois pelos nomes", literally "to call the bulls by their names" and I've read that the saying comes from the Beiras/Ribatejo regions where cow and bull herding was one of the most important activities and as such bulls and cows but specially bulls where given names, usually related to their character (names like "Teimoso" (Stubborn), "Lento" ("Slow"), etc...

On the subject of pork, some people feel sick when I tell them one of my favourite dishes is "túbaros com picante" (spicy pork testicles)...

[Truth-Finder]

Originally Posted by Menydh

Oh.. and a popular saying in Spain to say that every pig will have to pay for his deeds sooner or later: a todo cerdo le llega su San Martín. Literally, "St. Martin's day arrives to all pigs". St. Martin's day is the traditional day in Spanish villages for the yearly killing of pigs.

english equivalent Every dog will have his day

Originally Posted by Duchemin

The soup served in Strasbourg, formely called "Pork Soup" ("soupe au cochon"), has been latter renamed "Strasbourg Sausages Soup" ("soupe aux saucisses de Strasbourg"), judged less offending by the group. The society we're living in is so PC now.

I deduce from your links that the pork soup is a traditional event and "soupe au cochon" is the traditional name as well so why change it's name???


Would you ask them to change the name of their pilgrimage day or that of Ramadan for the sake of christian minorities living in their countries???

Why the mosleem and jewish communities do not organize a "soupe au mouton" day (lamb soup day) instead of breaking our b......................

Or at worst PC instead of changing the name they just make few marmist of chicken soup for the jewish & mosleem homeless who wanna participate