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Madrid, 16 May (AKI) - Spain's vice-president Maria Teresa Fernandez de la Vega has accused the Italian government of racism and xenophobia.

"The [Spanish] government rejects violence, racism and xenophobia, thus it does not agree with what is happening in Italy," said Fernandez de la Vega at a media conference on Friday.

"Immigration is a necessary phenomenon, which is positive as long as it is orderly and legal," said Fernandez de la Vega.

"The government does not share the deportations without respect for laws and rights."

Italy's new centre-right government headed by Silvio Berlusconi, has arrested hundreds of people this week in raids against migrant camps in several cities including Rome and the southern port city of Naples.

Most of the 383 foreigners arrested on Thursday were from North Africa and Romania.

Earlier this week a number of Roma Gypsy camps were attacked and set on fire, after a 17-year-old Roma girl was arrested for allegedly attempted to kidnap a six-year-old girl.

Many Roma Gypsies come from Romania and of the 150,000 Roma gypsies who live in Italy, 70,000 have Italian citizenship.

This week's operation appeared to signal the new conservative government's intention to keep its election promise to crack down on illegal immigrants. Many Italians hold them responsible for numerous crimes.

Berlusconi's People of Freedom coalition includes the anti-immigrant Northern League party.
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She can say whatever she wants.
On regards to Berlusconi, Many Italians dislike him quite a bit since he isn't the best man when it comes to economics..however, there is something I respect about him and that is that he kept his word. He mentioned that if he ever got a position of power again he would make sure Italy does not become a multicultural nation. A few gypsies is nothing..but it's a start.
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I don't understand, what does it mean "necessary" and "phenomenon", is it a foreign language, does it mean something like "shit happens"?
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A phenomenon as an event that is being observed, that's happening. So I suppose that "shit happens" could be an alternative way to put it.

Anyway, with unemployment soaring by the day and a crisis (they call it an economic activity "slow down") which, judging by the lack of preventive policies and the natural inability to come out with any, could even turn into a depression, we will see what they are going to do with the mass of "necessary" immigrants here in the coming months.
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I'm starting to wonder are these people normal.. Are they blind, or just short-sighted? If tomorrow somebody awakes from a coma that lasted for, let's say 15 years, he wouldn't believe what's happening.
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Such comments show me that there is an agenda behind all this; behind all of the trouble afflicting Europe. This is not just the opinion of a person. How can this retard say something like this in the face of the effects of immigration and the harmful multiculturalism that it brings? And which everybody is seeing and agreeing upon except mentally handicapped people of this sort, one must add.

Is it out of personal experience? Has he become the in-law/partner of an illegal immigrant and thus knows first hand how nice such a person can be? Has he personally made so many friends out of these illegal immigrants that this qualifies him to speak so of them?

If its not on a personal level, can this retard please explain exactly in what ways a country is enriched? Tangible explanations and figures please no political flowery bull$&!t about how they enrich our culture and how we must accept them as they are our kin in front of god, etc etc bla bla bla.

So it's either that:

1. He really sees it as beneficial for some reason (which I cannot really believe).

2. He secretly knows that its harming his country but someone or something has him by the balls, so he must say these stupidities and work for them.

3. He is knowingly and actively harming his country.

4. There's a hidden hand manipulating the strings and he's just a small cog in the machinery.
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There's an amount of power too. People are intimidated by smear words like racism and xenophobia. So he's blinkered, yes, but also has a power frisson masquerading as morality.
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I can say only one thing: because of global worming, there are going to be more and more and more immigrants due the lack of food, fresh water, fertile lands, rising of sea level, air temperature, immigrants from Africa and Middle East are going to overrun Europe...That is going to be big problem in comming ages and they must not only to argue, they must find some solution, together, not just to throw hot potatos to anothers hands...And, that isnt problem only of Spain and Italy, every coast coutries in Europe are going to confront with that incomming problem...
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It's already happening...

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