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NEW SURVEY UNDERMINES OFFICIAL POLICY

Most Germans Feel no Responsibility for Israel

A new survey reveals that most Germans feel their country has no special responsibility for Israel, despite Germany's official foreign policy of support for Israel. And only 13 percent of Germans are in favor of providing military support to Israel if the country came under attack.


Israel is celebrating its 60th anniversary this Thursday, an event which will be marked with particular attention in Germany. Six decades after the Holocaust, Germany is very aware of its historical obligations to the Jewish state, and the country's right to exist is a cornerstone of German foreign policy.

However, a new survey reveals that ordinary Germans are far more ambivalent in their attitudes towards the country. According to the poll, which was published Saturday, 53 percent of people questioned responded in the negative when asked if Germany had a "special responsibility" towards Israel because of its history. Only 40 percent said the country did have a special responsibility.


Younger Germans in particular felt less responsibility toward Israel, with only 29 percent of those aged between 30 and 39 responding in the positive to the question. A massive 65 percent of respondents in that age group said Germany had no special responsibility to Israel. However, 48 percent of the over-60s said that Germany did have a special obligation.


When asked if Germany should support Israel politically in the event of the country being attacked, 58 percent responded yes, with 33 percent saying no. A total of 35 percent supported financial support for Israel in the event of an attack, while 57 percent were against it.


A vast majority rejected military support for Israel should the Jewish state come under attack. Only 13 percent of respondents said they were in favor of supporting Israel with weapons if it were attacked. Asked if Germany should send soldiers if Israel was attacked, again only 13 percent said yes, with the overwhelming majority -- 81 percent -- responding in the negative.


The attitudes revealed in the survey contrast with German government doctrine that the country has a special responsibility to the state of Israel. That official stance was recently reaffirmed by German Chancellor Angela Merkel who told Israel\'s parliament, the Knesset, that Germany would "never abandon Israel, but instead will remain a loyal partner and friend."


A total of 1,230 Germans over the age of 18 were surveyed for the poll, which was conducted on behalf of the television station ZDF to tie in with Israel's 60th anniversary.


The state of Israel declared its independence on May 14, 1948. The anniversary will be celebrated this year on May 8, which marks the 60th anniversary according to the Hebrew calendar.
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Another 60 years and perhaps Israel will score "nil points" on the surveys.
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In a way the Israelis would be happy to agree with the majority in this survey. It is much more profitable to have all of Christendom named as the guilty party in the never-ending Holocaust lawsuit rather than just Germany and Austria.
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You know, you'd think that, Germany being a democracy and all, these opinions of the people would somehow be reflected in government policy.
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You know, you'd think that, Germany being a democracy and all, these opinions of the people would somehow be reflected in government policy.
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Of course it isn't funny be that is precisely what they want to do.
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Thanks to the left-media who describe the Israeli as ruthless murderers and Palestines as martyrs. And also thanks to all this muslim-fanboy shit who make the normal Germans hate the Jews even more without clear reasons. That's actually what happens here in Holland too. If a jewish person shows his identity openly, he will definitely be called words or even assaulted by young North-Africans [...] and their traitor germanic friends.

Israeli have two sides but we should see them rather as allies than enemies.

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Why should Germany and Germans "care" and "feel responsibility" for a country that is much more heavily armed than their own, anyway? What does Israel need the Germans' "feeling of responsibility" for?

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Thanks to the left-media who describe the Israeli as ruthless murderers and Palestines as martyrs.
The media in Sweden is mostly left wing, and that's not the way they describe things. Israelis occupying Palestinian land are "settlers". Palestinians throwing rocks at Israeli tanks are "terrorists".
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Why should Germany and Germans "care" and "feel responsibility" for a country that is much more heavily armed than their own, anyway? What does Israel need the Germans' "feeling of responsibility" for?
Israel's economy is not nearly developed enough to support such a huge military budget. It is dependent on foreign financial aid.

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The media in Sweden is mostly left wing, and that's not the way they describe things. Israelis occupying Palestinian land are "settlers". Palestinians throwing rocks at Israeli tanks are "terrorists".
Funny, in our left-wing media a group of bearded, grown-up Palestinian men holding kalashnikovs is "a group of Palestinian youths". And the Israelis are next to Nazis.
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Thanks to the left-media who describe the Israeli as ruthless murderers and Palestines as martyrs. And also thanks to all this muslim-fanboy shit who make the normal Germans hate the Jews even more without clear reasons. That's actually what happens here in Holland too. If a jewish person shows his identity openly, he will definitely be called words or even assaulted by young North-Africans [...] and their traitor germanic friends.

Israeli have two sides but we should see them rather as allies than enemies.
Whether Israel/Palestine calms down to become a cold war ceasefire similar to Cyprus, or Israel drives out the Palestinians, or the Palestinians drive out the Israelis, Europe's problem with non-European migrants will remain unchanged. Israel's fate is separate from the fate of European nations.
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