EU Opposes European Ban on Nazi Symbols

[Strengthandhonour]

A Europe-wide ban on Nazi symbols seems unlikely as EU officials are increasingly opposed to such a move.




Wine bottles inscribed with Nazi symbols and soccer players that use the 'Hitler' greeting could become part of everyday life in Europe because of increasing opposition in Brussels to an EU-wide ban on the use of Nazi symbols.



On Tuesday, EU Justice Minister Franco Frattini outraged German members of parliament by issuing a surprisingly candid rebuff: Such a measure would be "stupid," he said.



The collapse of the initiative occurred mostly due to the Italian and British opposition to the measure: they say it hinders freedom of expression.



The issue exploded after British Prince Harry attended a costume party wearing a Nazi uniform shortly before the 60th anniversary of the freeing of the prisoners at Auschwitz concentration camp last month. Outraged, German members of the EU Parliament pushed for a Europe-wide ban. So far, only Germany and Austria have such a ban.



Nazi costume sets off furor



While Prince Harry can hide behind an apology and the thick walls of Windsor Castle, in Germany, he would be threatened with up to a three-year jail sentence: Pictures of Hitler, the SS symbol and the Hitler 'greeting' are forbidden. The only exceptions are for historical or news purposes.



The rules are much laxer in other European countries. The north Italian Winzer Wine is distributed with pictures of prominent Nazis such as Hitler or Heinrich Himmler and remains unthreatened by the courts despite containing the words "Sieg Heil" on its label. Lazio Rom soccer star Paolo Di Canio flashed a fascist greeting to his rivals in January, without the worry of a fine or jail time.



"We have to remember the victims of Auschwitz"



German Justice Minister Brigitte Zypries wants to see an Europe-wide ban on such symbols. So does German EU Parliament member Silvana Koch Mehrin, who is upset by such displays and who was one of the first to speak in favor of a ban.



"After all, (Nazi symbols) refers to a regime that systematically murdered millions of people," she said. "A ban of symbols that stand for such a despised ideology can assist in making sure they will not be frivolously abused."



Luxembourg Justice Minister Luc Frieden makes similar arguments.



"We have to remember the victims of Auschwitz and remain vigilant against the ideology that allowed the death camp to be created," he said.



But opponents say an Europe-wide ban is "unnecessary," according to a spokesman for the British representatives to the EU.



Meanwhile, Frattini hopes that each of the member states proceeds against the right-leaning symbols in their own manner. That may be difficult in Italy, at least in the foreseeable future. The far-right Alleanza Nationale is part of the governing coalition of Silvio Berlusconi, in which Frattini served as foreign minister until last fall.

DW staff / AFP (jb)

[Ederico]

Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour

On Tuesday, EU Justice Minister Franco Frattini outraged German members of parliament by issuing a surprisingly candid rebuff: Such a measure would be "stupid," he said.



The collapse of the initiative occurred mostly due to the Italian and British opposition to the measure: they say it hinders freedom of expression.

Did I read everything correctly?

[Figlio della Lupa]

Originally Posted by Ederico Figallo

Did I read everything correctly?

I second that motion....

[Strengthandhonour]

I read this early in the morning before I went to school.
I was stunned for the entire morning..

[Timo]

Yet no call of a Europe-Wide ban on Communist Symbols? What about the gulags in the USSR? Do those millions not matter because they weren't 'the chosen people'?
Symbols are symbols, if some is offended by merely a symbol, slogan, or gesture, then them. Nobody has a right not to be offended, or did the stupid EU make that a right?

[Ebusitanus]

Wine bottles inscribed with Nazi symbols and soccer players that use the 'Hitler' greeting could become part of everyday life in Europe because of increasing opposition in Brussels to an EU-wide ban on the use of Nazi symbols

"After all, (Nazi symbols) refers to a regime that systematically murdered millions of people," she said. "A ban of symbols that stand for such a despised ideology can assist in making sure they will not be frivolously abused."

"We have to remember the victims of Auschwitz and remain vigilant against the ideology that allowed the death camp to be created,"

Just reading this histeria makes one laugh

[Gesta Bellica]

Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour

Meanwhile, Frattini hopes that each of the member states proceeds against the right-leaning symbols in their own manner. That may be difficult in Italy, at least in the foreseeable future. The far-right Alleanza Nationale is part of the governing coalition of Silvio Berlusconi, in which Frattini served as foreign minister until last fall.

Stupid assertions..
Alleanza Nazionale is hardly a "rightwing" party, not mentioning far-right LOL
The author of this article put some sensationalism in it, trying to make figure my country as a sort of fascist state.
Alleanza Nazionale's leader even went to Israel to kiss some jews' a**..so u can imagine how fascist they are...

[Constantinus]

Those German politicians are such pathetic wurms I'm embarrassed in their place.

[Hussar]

Originally Posted by Timo

Yet no call of a Europe-Wide ban on Communist Symbols? What about the gulags in the USSR? Do those millions not matter because they weren't 'the chosen people'?

I agree completely.

[Timo]

Originally Posted by CONSTANTINUS

Those German politicians are such pathetic wurms I'm embarrassed in their place.

I am offended you would call those politicians, "Germans."

[Odin]

Well, I'm glad that the EU at least tried to keep the image of "protector of freedom" this time and not ban ourt Symbols... Besides, they'd be taking a great risk, as every NS party (i.e. Britain's November 9th Society) would become illegal, and therefore, go underground... it would be too much of a risk for them...

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Odin

"Besides, they'd be taking a great risk, as every NS party (i.e. Britain's November 9th Society) would become illegal, and therefore, go underground... it would be too much of a risk for them..."

Suuure. So much of a risk that they are frightened with the thought of it. You haven't been much in Europe lately (if ever), have you?

By the way, we don't have a need or a use for the lunatic fringes here, be them Brits or Americans. We support intelligent and viable Nationalist politics in Europe, and we much appreciate the non interference of aliens, which we discourage at large.

Nationalist people and parties all over Europe already have enough problems and difficulties to also have to pay for the stupidness of retards like the N9S and the like.

Guess what. You and I have 'met' before. Now go and read the introduction to the forums.


Thank You.

[Odin]

[Edit by Mynydd: text deleted for ad hominems, insults, threats from behind a screen, and other retarded behaviour]

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Odin

It's been a year since the last time I went to the Fatherland actually... did I miss you?... shoot, so you were the mongrel that wanted my spare change!
It's pretty easy to be an internet jerk like you, just insulting my comrades in England and throughout the continent... However, I'd like to see you repeat that in front of any of the N9S members...

Whatever a Chilean may call "Fatherland", most probably the high Andean plateau in Peru. Been chewing too much coca leaves lately and have your brain holed like a gruyere cheese?

It doesn't surprise me from an individual from Chile his Britishism, what strikes me is that despite it, you have adopted the flag of Germania in your country profile.

We don't give shelter here to lunatic fringes, nutties, or retards. And you fit in all those categories.

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Find yourself a loonie asylum where you will feel at home. You are banned.

Good riddance.

[Menydh]

Odin, some nutzis from your area. Odin, who are you in the picture?