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AFTER NOMINATING RUDOLF HESS FOR NOBEL PEACE PRIZE

NPD Leader Charged with Inciting Race Hate

The leader of Germany's far-right NPD party has been charged with inciting race hate after proposing Hitler's deputy Rudolf Hess for a Nobel Peace Prize. If convicted, he could face three years in jail.

NPD leader Udo Voigt could face three years in jail after being charged with inciting race hate.

For an award with such laudable intentions, the Nobel Peace Prize has certainly had its fair share of controversy over the last century. As well as no-brainer winners such as Martin Luther King, Mother Teresa and the Dalai Lama, there have been more contentious laureates such as Palestine Liberation Organization leader Yasser Arafat, former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev and former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. But Adolf Hitler's secretary and deputy Rudolf Hess? The fact that the head of the far-right National Democratic Party of Germany (NPD), Udo Voigt, proposed Hess for the peace prize during a speech last Saturday to coincide with the 20th anniversary of Hess's death only confirms how twisted the worldview of right-wing extremists is. Apart from the fact that a leading Nazi was never a likely contender for a peace prize, nominations to the Nobel Peace Prize are by invitation only and nominees must be alive.

The eccentric proposal could now have unpleasant consequences for Voigt. German police in the eastern city of Jena said Friday they have charged the NPD leader with inciting racial hatred. If convicted, Voigt could face a jail term of up to three years or a fine.

There have been renewed calls this week for the NPD to be banned (more...), following last Sunday's attack on eight Indians (more...) in a small Eastern German town.
Hess, who was captured in 1941 after he flew to Scotland with the intention of brokering a peace deal with the United Kingdom, was sentenced to life imprisonment at the Nuremberg trials and died in Spandau prison near Berlin in 1987.
After Nominating Rudolf Hess for Nobel Peace Prize: NPD Leader Charged with Inciting Race Hate - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News
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For an award with such laudable intentions, the Nobel Peace Prize has certainly had its fair share of controversy over the last century. As well as no-brainer winners such as Martin Luther King, Mother Teresa and the Dalai Lama, there have been more contentious laureates such as Palestine Liberation Organization leader Yasser Arafat, former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev and former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.
Sure. Henry Kissinger is one of the worse criminals of this century, yet a Nobel Prize. It is remarkable that they mention Arafat, 1994 Prize Nobel, but they don't mention Menachem Begin, 1974 Prize Nobel, the leader of the Zionist terrorist group Irgun and the man who ordered the terrorist bombing of King David Hotel in Jerusalem, in 1946.

I don't know what to say any more. I suppose that I should congratulate Udo Voigt for nominating Rudolf Hess to a prize held by so many criminals, and for the importance of this nomination for the German people in particular, and for the Europeans in general. I.e., no relevance whatsoever, but with such an ample support from the public, he can afford such eccentricities..

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Apart from the fact that a leading Nazi was never a likely contender for a peace prize, nominations to the Nobel Peace Prize are by invitation only and nominees must be alive.
Twice a fool.

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German police in the eastern city of Jena said Friday they have charged the NPD leader with inciting racial hatred. If convicted, Voigt could face a jail term of up to three years or a fine.
Three years imprisonment for retardness is over-abusive.
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For the series: Europe is a democratic country where free spech is protected.

As long as it is not forbidden.
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A completely ridiculous case. I have no sympathy for his Hess comments, but still, what the f*ck...

No one seems to react to this. Why? Because no one wants to defend this Voigt or his party.
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First of all, it is an utter stupidity to propose for the Noble prize a dead man (independently of whether the person in question was criminal or a good man).

Of course, we can conjecture that his "proposal" was just hypothetical, in sense: If Rudolf Hess were alive, he would be a candidate for Nobel prize. But it is retarded nevertheless.

Secondly, bear in mind that it's coming from Der Spiegel. Aptrgangr, being German, can better explain what kind of newspaper it is. So I'm waiting for confirmation from more serious sources, to form my opinion on the subject.

Thirdly, it is monstruous to send people to jail just for stupidity. If that were the case, prisons would be overcrowded and the whole penitentiary system of a country that would enforce such a measure, would collapse immediately.

Fourthly, the main issue here to be concerned about isn't his strange "idea", but the media attention focused on that. The media choose what is to be considered important and what not, what is to be publicized and what not. So the media terror is something we should worry about much more than about occasional stupid remark of this or that politician.

He made a grave damage to his party obviously. But I'm sure, hadn't he indulged in this incautious tongue-slip, the democratic-liberal stormtroopers of the media would have found something else...
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Secondly, bear in mind that it's coming from Der Spiegel. Aptrgangr, being German, can better explain what kind of newspaper it is. So I'm waiting for confirmation from more serious sources, to form my opinion on the subject.

He made a grave damage to his party obviously. But I'm sure, hadn't he indulged in this incautious tongue-slip, the democratic-liberal stormtroopers of the media would have found something else...
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That's pure provocation, i.e. political "trolling"...

Not to mention, political suicide.
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Sure. Henry Kissinger is one of the worse criminals of this century, yet a Nobel Prize. It is remarkable that they mention Arafat, 1994 Prize Nobel, but they don't mention Menachem Begin, 1974 Prize Nobel, the leader of the Zionist terrorist group Irgun and the man who ordered the terrorist bombing of King David Hotel in Jerusalem, in 1946.
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Report Says Begin Was Behind Adenauer Letter Bomb

According to a report in a German newspaper, Israeli leader Menachem Begin was behind an attempted assassination of German Chancellor Konrad Adenauer in 1952.


More than 40 years after the act in question, one of the perpetrators says Begin -- who later became Israeli prime minister, and who shared the Nobel Peace Prize with Egypt's Anwar Sadat in 1978 -- masterminded and funded an assassination attempt against Germany's chancellor, Konrad Adenauer, in 1952.

Report Says Begin Was Behind Adenauer Letter Bomb | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 13.06.2006
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