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View Poll Results: Who will win it?
Austria 2 3.85%
Croatia 8 15.38%
Czech Republic 1 1.92%
France 0 0%
Germany 6 11.54%
Greece 4 7.69%
Italy 5 9.62%
Netherlands 5 9.62%
Poland 1 1.92%
Portugal 4 7.69%
Romania 1 1.92%
Spain 6 11.54%
Sweden 1 1.92%
Switzerland 0 0%
Russia 4 7.69%
Turkey 4 7.69%
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It starts this saturday...
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I think that Germany will win.
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No way, they probably won't even go out of their group! Well, they're lucky they have easy group, but Poland and Croatia will pass, I hope.

Germany is not really much German anyway, they don't even have 1 German forward.
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I hope for Spain, if only for him, far the most talented Iberian in England. Yet Im sure it will be Italy.
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I'm a huge fan of Turkey.
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It's real shame Israel couldn't make it to the finals.
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I'm a huge fan of Turkey.
Don't laugh, it is possible that there are more Muslims in the French team than in the Turkish one.
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Don't laugh, it is possible that there are more Muslims in the French team than in the Turkish one.
True. I'll add that I'm pretty sure that most of Turkish players are agnostic/ahteists or secularized Muslims. The Muslims of the French team are proselytes.
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How many French players does France have anyway? Coupet, Toulalan (if he's playing)... Anyone else?
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How many French players does France have anyway? Coupet, Toulalan (if he's playing)... Anyone else?
Bilal (err... I mean Frank) Ribery.

Anyway, the thing is that they are all French. And this is actually the problem with being French by nationality (and then French nationalism) nowadays.
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I took a look, 6 French players out of 23...
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I'm rooting for Switzerland and Italy, though I'm not too enthusiastic about big soccer leagues given how PCized they have become.
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My favourite is Croatia. I don't think it's likely to happen, but after Greece made it, everything is possible
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I'm also a sucker for neo-French players.
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