Anthropological territories of the Balkans

[Vojvoda]

1. Laponoid (Alpine) majority
2. Absolute Armenoid majority
3. Relative Armenoid majority
4. Central European mixed territory, majority of Nordic element
5. Majority of Mediterranean race


J. Czekanowski “Czlowiek w czasie przestrzeni” Warszawa 1967

[Agrippa]

Seems to be realistic though I wonder that all the Nordid areas are in the Serbian territories

It may even be true that those regions are the strongest Nordid ones, but still - predominantely and all from North to South?

[Vojvoda]

Originally Posted by Agrippa

Seems to be realistic though I wonder that all the Nordid areas are in the Serbian territories

Yes, those regions weren't settled by Gothic tribes so it musn't be true

[norda]

It was my fault not to explain (translate) it properly. Relative majority of (for example Nordic) element means that Nordic element is the strongest one among 4 basic elements. Theoretically it can vary from 26% to 50% while practically is closer to 35% - 30%. As such (after XIV centuries since Slavic invasion) do not create numerous Nordid types in Belarus or Icelandic meaning but rather typical Central European blondish intermediate subtypes namely Subnordics or Norics (Awar’s UP/Dinarics or whatever ).

[damjan]

good map. for the nordic area its true. in south-eastern albania which borders the nordic regions of macedonian slavs there is a sharp increase in blondes.

the map doesnt show all of albania. i wonder where according to J. Czekanowski does alpine relative majority takes over.

ps did J. Czekanowski visit the maped areas personally, or is he basing it on secondary evidence?

[Linus]

Which of these drawings of the Dinarid type is better/more accurate?

1.


2.

[Agrippa]

Definitely the 1st. The first looks quite typical whereas the 2nd looks too me too deviating. I should add that the other plates from this series (f.e. of Nordid) were not too good as well.

[Awar]

The first one, of course, though you'll rarely find people with such large noses anywhere in the Balkans except the westernmost parts, like Montenegro and Croatia.

All look more like something you'll see in Armenia rather than Balkans.

[norda]

Originally Posted by Linus

Which of these drawings of the Dinarid type is better/more accurate?

1.

I guess Czekanowski would call him Armenoid.
His Dinaric type is Armenoid/Nordid intermediate as more typical for Dinaric Mts population.

[Awar]

Yep, that's more like it. What are those people? Croats?

[Agrippa]

They look too rounded for typical-"pure" Dinarids.

[Exeter]

Women have rounder facial contour. No. 4-5 and 8-9 look sharp enough to me.

Originally Posted by Agrippa

They look too rounded for typical-"pure" Dinarids.

[Awar]

Those are pictures of younger people than what's usually represented as 'Dinaric' in books ( a 70 year old man with no teeth ).

Other textbook dinarics look more like something from Armenia rather than Balkans.

[Agrippa]

Originally Posted by Exeter

Women have rounder facial contour. No. 4-5 and 8-9 look sharp enough to me.

Sure they are Dinarids.

This German politician is pred. Dinarid too:



The painter Defregger showed many Tyrolese, you can see plenty of average Dinarid faces (often with Nordid, Alpinid though) under them:
http://images.google.at/images?svnum...r=&q=defregger

[norda]

Originally Posted by Awar

Yep, that's more like it. What are those people? Croats?

1 Rusyn (Ukrainian)
2-3 Russian
4-5 Polish
6-7 Polish
8-9 Polish

[Gecko]

Is this map some kind of sarcastic joke?

Majority of Croats are armenoids,and majority of Serbs are blonde,blue eyed central europeans?!

[Zyklop]

Originally Posted by Awar

Those are pictures of younger people than what's usually represented as 'Dinaric' in books ( a 70 year old man with no teeth ).

Good example of a young Dinarid:

[Exeter]

I would have thought Armenoid.

Originally Posted by Zyklop

Good example of a young Dinarid:

[Zyklop]

Originally Posted by Exeter

I would have thought Armenoid.

The Armenoid nose is more fleshy and "hanging" and the chin usually is retreating.