Future evolution of human appearance

[Voron]

Based on purely sexual selection and not taking into account any kind of artificial manipulation such as genetic engineering, f.e., what do you think the general direction of future evolution in human facial and body features will be? Is the current state of gracialisation most of all observed in classic Nordid and Mediterranean phenotypes the pinnacle of evolution or is there still place left for future advancement? If there is, than what it is that could be changed in your opinion? And lets not take any environmental factors into account either, such as technological advancement, as for all we know there is a relatively big chance of humanity sinking into another stone age. So, based purely on sexual selection.

[Monolith]

I believe people will become more taller,smarter and intelligent.
Some dental changes may occur, due to difference in food we eat today, and the food that our ancestors ate. Dental changes would certainly have some effect on the change of the skull dimensions.
I also believe that people won't have toes, because they have no real purpose.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Bardyllis

I believe people will become more taller,smarter and intelligent.

Taller, maybe, although there is to observe a stagnation in the increase of height, after certain period of intense growth in the last about 50 or 60 years. As for smarter and more intelligent, if the current trend continues, I believe it is more likely the opposite of that to happen. People are being dumbed down on daily basis by the stupid media, by TV, by the commercials, by the educational system that teaches them nothing useful (mostly just commonplaces and stereotypes). A gigantic stupidification machine has been set in motion, whose only purpose is ti keep people obedient and supportive of the eternal multicultural-capitalistic-consumerist regime.

Only on condition this regime and the power structures which steer it, falls, will there be a chance for people to come to senses.

Originally Posted by Bardyllis

I also believe that people won't have toes, because they have no real purpose.

How would you walk without toes, for God's sake?

[Monolith]

Originally Posted by Plethon

Taller, maybe, although there is to observe a stagnation in the increase of height, after certain period of intense growth in the last about 50 or 60 years. As for smarter and more intelligent, if the current trend continues, I believe it is more likely the opposite of that to happen. People are being dumbed down on daily basis by the stupid media, by TV, by the commercials, by the educational system that teaches them nothing useful (mostly just commonplaces and stereotypes). A gigantic stupidification machine has been set in motion, whose only purpose is ti keep people obedient and supportive of the eternal multicultural-capitalistic-consumerist regime.

What you said is true, but even now, you're training your mind by thinking about a certain problem and conversing about it.
People do this every day.
Isn't evolution supposed to improve a being, in order to ensure its survival?

How would you walk without toes, for God's sake?

You probably misunderstood me.
What do you use your toes for? Probably for nothing other than walking. They provide stability, along with the rest of the foot.
I meant that there is no need for foot fingers(), and I've read that they will most probably merge into one "finger"(thus become part of foot).

[Breogan]

Originally Posted by Bardyllis

I believe people will become more taller,smarter and intelligent...

Really?
Well, my friend, you're quite optimistic.

Some dental changes may occur, due to difference in food we eat today, and the food that our ancestors ate. Dental changes would certainly have some effect on the change of the skull dimensions.
I also believe that people won't have toes, because they have no real purpose.

Mmmm...toothless satyres?

[Crvena zvezda]

i remember a few days ago I saw a program on tv in which some scientists believed that unless the degeneration societies stops humans will become darker, taller (average height will become 1.80m) and we will have the communication skills of chimpanzees.

In other words, we are a future of degenerate africans in the nba.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Bardyllis

What you said is true, but even now, you're training your mind by thinking about a certain problem and conversing about it.

Yes, all of us on this board are conversing and thinking about something, but we are a tiny minority in the population. Most people don't bother to think any more, they are just accepting all the commonplaces the media teach them. As for someone who, besides doing his job (which is more often than not of dull and repetitive nature), only follows soap-operas every day and hangs out in the betting house, not engaging in any higher activity, it is is highly improbable that he is evolving intellectually and mentally to some better level. He is more probably involving (the opposite of evolving), ie. falling downwards.

Originally Posted by Bardyllis

You probably misunderstood me.
What do you use your toes for? Probably for nothing other than walking. They provide stability, along with the rest of the foot.
I meant that there is no need for foot fingers(), and I've read that they will most probably merge into one "finger"(thus become part of foot).

OK, now I understand what you want to say. But that is in the realm of pure speculation.

Besides, I find it hard to believe that evolution would be some constant process of growth (metaphorically speaking), elevation onto superior levels. There are no proofs for that. It is the modern superstition of "progress" that makes us think that we are improving constantly in everything.

I rather see the development of human kind in a sort of zig-zag line.

Or rather it seems to me that we are not evolved and progressed from the time of our ancestors, but on the contrary that we are degraded and involved descendants of some of our superior ancestors who might have lived many many a time ago. All ancient myths, legends and even some histories concur in recounting of past golden ages, of the deterioration of the human kind, not betterment. But it is just in the realm of pure speculation, so I won't bother with that any more.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Crvena zvezda

i remember a few days ago I saw a program on tv in which some scientists believed that unless the degeneration societies stops humans will become darker, taller (average height will become 1.80m) and we will have the communication skills of chimpanzees.

In other words, we are a future of degenerate africans in the nba.

Source, some link, please? If it was published on the internet. I would be really interested in that.

And anyway, it's the ideal promoted by the media.

[drgs]

Wisdom teeth will disappear and jaws will become smaller, at least this is what we are in the process to. Today 5% of earth population naturally lacks some of the 4 wisdom teeth (10 % in europe, 25% in northern europe). In apes all the 32 teeth grow out at the same time, in humans who have smaller jaws the two extra pairs of molars wait until the jaw is fullgrown, i. e. around the age of 20 when man is about to reach maturity (thus the name -- wisdom teeth, but obviously they have nothing to do with wisdom), This is btw why some people have uneven teeth

[Crvena zvezda]

I googled "future humans." This is an image that came up.

[Monolith]

Originally Posted by Crvena zvezda

I googled "future humans." This is an image that came up.

It looks like Al Bundy.

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Bardyllis

It looks like Al Bundy.

No. To me it looks like an inbred Shiqptar.

[Chauntecleer]

Originally Posted by Bardyllis

You probably misunderstood me.
What do you use your toes for? Probably for nothing other than walking. They provide stability, along with the rest of the foot.
I meant that there is no need for foot fingers(), and I've read that they will most probably merge into one "finger"(thus become part of foot).

Does this mean you consider people born with webbed-toes progressive?



Progressive feet, this person must be a schizothyme for sure.

[Cirrus]

Different hypotheses here :

Interactive: Before and after humans - Future of Evolution - MSNBC.com

[Voron]

Originally Posted by drgs

Wisdom teeth will disappear and jaws will become smaller, at least this is what we are in the process to. Today 5% of earth population naturally lacks some of the 4 wisdom teeth (10 % in europe, 25% in northern europe). In apes all the 32 teeth grow out at the same time, in humans who have smaller jaws the two extra pairs of molars wait until the jaw is fullgrown, i. e. around the age of 20 when man is about to reach maturity (thus the name -- wisdom teeth, but obviously they have nothing to do with wisdom), This is btw why some people have uneven teeth

But then again it is the result of environmental factors like softer food or something like that.

I am more interested in pure geometry - if we take a super harmonious, gracialized and progressive face of a modern Nordid and consider it a golden standard, would such a face be the peak of human evolution or is it possible to refine these features even more? Assuming that the tendency is gracialization and miniaturization of features would even narrower face, thinner nose, even more three-dimensional face make it even more progressive or is there a limit after which such features would only make the face uglier? Where is such a limit and do you think humanity has achieved it already?

[Voron]

Originally Posted by Chauntecleer

Does this mean you consider people born with webbed-toes progressive?



Progressive feet, this person must be a schizothyme for sure.

There is a tribe in Africa, where all people have only two big fingers on their feet, apparently it makes climbing the palm-trees much easier.