Celtic?

[deMaru]

I just started a similar thread (Germanic?).

I havent seen celtic either, isnt that a complete race?
Or are they perhaps mediterreanean or something else, please enlighten me, this isnt things they teach in school so im clueless.

[Menydh]

The nations commonly known as Celtic (Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall, Brittany) share a high frequency of the Y-Chromosome haplogroup R1b, to different degrees.

This points to an ancient Western origin prior to the spread of the Kelts, and in common with Southwestern populations.

Not surprisingly then the incidence of the various types of Mediterranid and Atlantid phenotypes. Alpinids (or alpinicised) are also common in Brittany, and Nordid admixture is more common in parts of Scotland.

Generally speaking, you may think of the current 'borders' of these meta-cultural concepts as the product of a process of aculturation.

[Monolith]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

The nations commonly known as Celtic (Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall, Brittany) share a high frequency of the Y-Chromosome haplogroup R1b, to different degrees.

This points to an ancient Western origin prior to the spread of the Kelts, and in common with Southwestern populations.

Indeed. R1b is the most common haplogroup in western Europe.
I would dare to say that it's the most common in the entire Europe.(by number of people who belong to that haplogroup)

[deMaru]

What is R1b haplogroup :S:S?

[Monolith]

There are three main haplogroups in Europe:
R1a-most common in Slavic-speaking countries, highest frequency reported in Poland and Russia
R1b-most common in western Europe and British isles, highest frequency reported in Ireland and Basque country
I1b-most common in the Balkans
subclade I1b1*-highest frequency reported in Croats from Croatia and Herzegovina
subclade I1b1b-highest frequency in Sardinians
subclade I1b2-closely related to Scandinavian I1a haplogroup

[deMaru]

hmmk thanks, that seems very complicated though:/

[Menydh]

Have a look at this image. It might help a little.. to complicate things further

It is a map and charts of the distribution of y-chromosome based (male lineage) haplogroups in Europe.


This map represents the refugia of the three main haplogroups during the Glacial Age.


And the spread of the three haplogroups as the ices retired. They are Paleolithic markers.


This other map refers to posterior Neolithic markers into Europe.

[Monolith]

Originally Posted by deMaru

hmmk thanks, that seems very complicated though:/

The big picture is this: We're all a mix of the 3 main haplogroups, and apparently E3b to lesser extent.
It's all about diversity.