height of modern races

[Ariets]

So how much modern people presents modern races how tall are they?

Nordid? Dinarid? Norid? Med? etc

for example, my friend is heigher than his father (170) by 8 cm's! And his grandfather is only 165 cms!
And he is not alpinid, he looks norid

[Agrippa]

Well, not all individuals which fit otherwise into a racial type's spectrum must have all of its traits, that can be caused both by individual variation or admixture.

However, typical modern Dinarids measure as a rule more than 175 with average up to ~182+ in my opinion.

[Galaico]

And the improvement in alimentation in the last decades has a lot to do too.

Stirpes average height is of 180.10 cm

[Agrippa]

Originally Posted by Galaico

And the improvement in alimentation in the last decades has a lot to do too.

Stirpes average height is of 180.10 cm

Yes, its more about the average relative differences rather than individual absolute ones for racial, constitutional and social type. I'd assume we have here on this forum more males which had a rather sufficient nutrition and above-average upraising no matter from which social class they come and significantly more Leptosomics and people of progressive racial types of higher height (Nordid, Cromagnid, Dinarid, Atlantomediterranid etc.).

But of course, height is not everything, f.e. the Tollund man was a rather small, but still a quite typical Nordid otherwise, just of a different social-environmental and cosnstitutional form - with the consideration of individual variation as well.

[Marcus Marulus]

Height is primarily determined by genetics.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by prometheus

Height is primarily determined by genetics.

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[Susi]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

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Well the environment influences genetics also...

[svin]

I often see Italian tourists (northern Italian, I assume) in Moscow and they seem very tall to me. Many of them are about ~1.95. Are northern Italians as tall as, for example, Croats?

Oh well, maybe that's just my wrong impression, of course.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Susi

Well the environment influences genetics also...

I think that environment's influence works on longer term basis, whereas diet's influence works on shorter tems. Also, the effects from diet should be reversible in a a couple of generations, whereas the effects of environment not.

Originally Posted by svin

I often see Italian tourists (northern Italian, I assume) in Moscow and they seem very tall to me. Many of them are about ~1.95. Are northern Italians as tall as, for example, Croats?

Oh well, maybe that's just my wrong impression, of course.

Yes, I think that it must be a wrong impression.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by svin

I often see Italian tourists (northern Italian, I assume) in Moscow and they seem very tall to me. Many of them are about ~1.95. Are northern Italians as tall as, for example, Croats?

Oh well, maybe that's just my wrong impression, of course.

I am 194 and I feel I am just a little above the average in Croatia...the average for grown up men being about 185-190 and for women 175-180.

The so-called Dinarics are known to be particularly tall...I heard also about the Dutch being very tall...

It must be some combination of genetics and environment...

[Der]

Well I think that the original post is very interesting, I imagine that all Europid races are taller now than they used to be 80 years ago, maybe is due to better alimentation.

The original question asked by Ariets still remains unanswered, hopefully in the near future someone with some sort of idea will help us resolve it.
In the case of Alpinids the average height has always been consider to be around 166 cm. Although I think that now a days the average height in male Alpinids may stand around 170 cm.