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I have chosen SOCRATES. I have not chosen him for philosophycal reassons, as my knowledge about philosophy is not as good as to enter a deep debate, but just suficient to point out elementhal differences.
I chose Socrates for his attitude against death, or what is more important, because he proved to be a man that believed in principles and would stand for them even if that could cause him death. Aristoteles for the contrary, simply escaped to his mothers island. You can be the most fantastic artist, philosopher, or what ever of the world, but if you fail to have principles you would not meet the minimun to be a proper MAN/WOMAN. |
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It's a funny choice, since Socrates did not write anything as far as we know. A choice between Platon and Aristoteles then perhaps? But I tend to see their influence almost as one body, even if they differed from each other.
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Den västerländska traditionen kan man vara trogen bara genom att ifrågasätta den med förnuftet som måttstock. Svante Nordin, Det pessimistiska förnuftet Wir haben eine ältere Offenbarung als jede geschriebene, die Natur. Friedrich Schelling, Über das Wesen der menschlichen Freiheit The French were always there when they needed us. American proverb |
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All we know of Socrates come from the writings of others such as Plato or Xenophon. The best account is likely given by Plato but he uses Socrates in much of his work to act as his own voice. The Socratic dialogues are almost certainly fictional accounts that Plato uses to put across his own thoughts and ideas. So I would concur, a choice between Plato and his pupil, Aristotle, would seem more logical.
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The traditions of the Irish people are the oldest of any race in Europe north and west of the Alps, and they themselves are the longest settled on their own soil - Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922) The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth. For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish. - Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596). The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation. - Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation. - Heinrich Zimmer, Professor of Celtic and Sanskrit, Member of the Prussian Academy of Sciences |
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I'm vote for Socrates because his steams down the question regarding the distance of the earth and the sun and moreover Socrates doctrine based on morality and politics how those two factors has an impact on everyone lifes and also most of his thought were per dominant in a sense that the questions that he put up left most of the post-Socratic unanswered and even to Socated himself
Meanwhile Aristotle doctrine related to law of nature and the boundaries, which we co-exit and this gives eventually gives meaning of our life that circled around the boundaries. However its not something you're able to prove through any kind of measurement.
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''Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organized life''- Kant
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Knowledge being the amounting and accumulated learning, passed on through one generation to the next, I don't think that it is wise to compare two such men in such a way, as if they were two brands of makeup or clothes.
You can compare two schools of thinking on one given matter or question, for example. Or, sure, two key figures on one matter. But this seems to me as frivolous.
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'Dardanidae duri, quae uos a stirpe parentum prima tulit tellus, eadem uos ubere laeto
accipiet reduces. Antiquam exquirite matrem: hic domus Aeneae cunctis dominabitur oris, et nati natorum, et qui nascentur ab illis.' We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. –Plato– |
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In fact, although he seems to argue against the latter's theories he is still very tied into his way of thinking and at times eventually arrives back at the very same conclusions.
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The traditions of the Irish people are the oldest of any race in Europe north and west of the Alps, and they themselves are the longest settled on their own soil - Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922) The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth. For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish. - Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596). The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation. - Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation. - Heinrich Zimmer, Professor of Celtic and Sanskrit, Member of the Prussian Academy of Sciences |
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You prefer Plato?
I thought you were Plato. ![]()
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Den västerländska traditionen kan man vara trogen bara genom att ifrågasätta den med förnuftet som måttstock. Svante Nordin, Det pessimistiska förnuftet Wir haben eine ältere Offenbarung als jede geschriebene, die Natur. Friedrich Schelling, Über das Wesen der menschlichen Freiheit The French were always there when they needed us. American proverb |
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Last edited by Marcus Marulus; Saturday, December 29th, 2007 at 22:46. |
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Plato's dialogues contain more wisdom than Aristotle's works as far as one is able to make make use of the universal nature of the knowledge and principles they contain. They are also not as much sleep introducing
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