Identità Europea

[Menydh]

I just came through this Italian association while watching a video of a conference about (against) Garibaldi, by its coordinator, Adolfo Morganti. It appears to be pan-Europeanist of some kind and at the same time Traditionalist from a Catholic stand point. They speak of a Eurasian and a Euromediterranean elements of Europe. It looks strange to me because in Spain such Traditionalism is nothing pro-Europeanist, let alone pan-Europeanist.

identità europea - associazione culturale

Their manifest:
manifesto di identità europea - associazione culturale (in English)
manifesto di identità europea - associazione culturale (in Italian)
manifesto di identità europea - associazione culturale (in German)
manifesto di identità europea - associazione culturale (in French)
manifesto di identità europea - associazione culturale MANIFIESTO DE IDENTIDAD EUROPEA (in Spanish)

[Marcus Marulus]

There was already a thread on it in the Italian section:

identità europea - associazione culturale

[Marcus Marulus]

In fact, they are mostly erudites, like historians, philosophers, even some theologians. And mostly good ones, of the old school, not the usual type of modern brain-dead specialist in, let's say, history of gender relations (like feminist stuff and similar). They put much emphasis on culture.

[Carnyx]

By encouraging a EUROPEAN IDENTITY we do not intend to promote a "western culture" which absorbs and dissolves all diversities in a levelling attempt. On the contrary, our aim is to enlarge this identity beyond the European boundaries, thus recovering that large part of our continent "outside Europe" - from Argentina to Canada and from South Africa to Australia - which looks at the old continent not as a distant ancestor but as a real homeland.

The French version:

recouvrer ainsi la grande Europe "en dehors de l'Europe"

thus recovering the greater Europe "outside Europe".

Wow, greater Europe?

[Kernunnos]

Franco cardini is a renowned arabist.

All the association tone is a lot on the pro-moslem side.

Anyway, this is what we have, europeans that strongly fight for the jewish interests or for the moslem ones.

Europeans who just fight for Europe are a rarity ...

[Menydh]

Normalcy looks more the exception than the rule, these days.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Breha

Franco cardini is a renowned arabist.

Being Arabist does not necessarily make someone pro-Moslem. But in Cardini these two traits seem to be combined. However, I am not acquainted with his stand on ethnic preservation of the European peoples. I suppose he does not think of it as of something too important.

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Normalcy looks more the exception than the rule, these days.

In all fields, literally.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Plethon

Being Arabist does not necessarily make someone pro-Moslem. But in Cardini these two traits seem to be combined. However, I am not acquainted with his stand on ethnic preservation of the European peoples. I suppose he does not think of it as of something too important.

There are a number of cases where so-called right-wingers have approached Islam, attracted by the anti-materialist and anti-system approach. That I know of, such cases usually happen in people of neo-paganist adscription or near to the gnosticist and esotericist philosophies of the "traditionalists" of the school of René Guénon, a convert to Sufism himself.

[Uri]

Originally Posted by Breha

Anyway, this is what we have, europeans that strongly fight for the jewish interests or for the moslem ones.

Europeans who just fight for Europe are a rarity ...

This is the problem; The so-called "Desert religions", seemed to atract great number of european nationalists. Most of "pro-nazis" have an insane admiration for islamists (Note the absurdity of being neo-pagan or traditionalist (Sophia Perennis) , as Mynnyd says, and being close to a monotheistic religion like islam at the same time...)

As for the jews, the same: A people without roots that is attractive due to his hostility towards islam.

The Near East problem should be aliene to europeans: No Islam, no Zion. It's their problem and if they kill one to another like beasts we should not interfere.

[Marcus Marulus]

Nevertheless, I think that some good things can be learned from them. And I don't see them as being so very pro-Moslem. I never saw any article there supporting immigration into Europe and they regularly write about Armenian genocide (hardly a pro-Moslem issue).

What I find objectionable about them is some kind of curious (pan-Europeanist) universalism of theirs. They tend to view Europe as mere idea and not an entity composed of concrete nations.

But some good and interesting things can be read there and I read them regularly (it doesn't mean that I agree with them in everything).