On Lawrence Angell's "nordic-iranian"...

[Señor Malo]

Among the racial sub-types that Lawrance Angell described in his works on the racial types of ancient hellenes, he identifies one as "nordic - iranian"

From your point of views, what does he really mean by that? is it a new name he's giving to the nordid racial type, or is he speaking an specifical ancient blend between nordids and Irano-afghanian (this late introduced via corded culture?)

[Señor Malo]

Nothing yet?

[Ross]

Interesting, that the Nordic-Iranian type of Ancient Greeks is very similar to anthropological types of Iranian Alans of Southern Russian steppes and all eastern Eastern Slavs (their NW neighbours) - who has benn living to the East from Dnieper and... to types of Southern Finns - Erzja (NE neighbours of Iranian Alans).

It all looks like center of Indo-European genesis.

The type is a bit boader faced than the Hallstatt type, and significantly higher headed.

Light-pigmented.

Also, the type has a very low %% of convex, as well as concave, noses. It's not a blend.

[Menydh]

There is some info about the Nordic-Iranian type on Dienekes' site, apparently taken from J. Lawrence Angel's description:

Nordic-Iranians (Type D: Plate XL, m-q) have long and high heads with peculiarly deep occiputs, smooth ovoid-ellipsoid contour, sharply-cut muscle impressions, strong browridges, and tilted and capacious foreheads. Marked facial height and narrowness of cheeks compared to wide forehead and jowls makes a rectangular, horse-faced impression. Large but slightly retreating cheekbones enclose drooping orbits, and big, salient, and aquiline noses, long-arched palates, muscular jaws wide at the angles, and cleft chins lacking prominence all add to the same effect. Nordic-Iranians were tall and muscular, strong-necked, and probably included tawny-haired blue- or green-eyed blonds as well as brunets. Approximate identity, and noteworthy resemblances to North Iranian Bronze Age Proto-Nordics, to Anglo-Saxons, and to medieval Irish Monks show the divided eastern and northern relations of this Greek type. And although Type D has low variability, it includes four slightly different tendencies: a cylindrical-skulled, slab-faced Iron-Age Nordic one (D1: Chalcidian and E. Thracian, in Plate XL, n and o), a high-skulled, ellipsoid, “Corded” tendency (D2: Chalcidian in Plate XL, p slightly “dinaricised”), a long byrsoid, deep-skulled, huge-nosed, convex-profiled Iranian trend (D4: Athenian of Arcadian parentage, in Plate XL, m), and a small-faced Iranian-Mediterranean divergence approaching Coon's Cappadocian and Danubian types (D3: Athenian in Plate XL, q).



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[Señor Malo]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

There is some info about the Nordic-Iranian type on Dienekes' site, apparently taken from J. Lawrence Angel's description:

I read it too and as you said, comes from Angel's very hand.
I'm not sure but looks more like a blend, doesn't it?

[Menydh]

I'm not into Anthropology, so I can only speculate. I see traits in which they differ much from each other, so I assume that there must be another set of traits which they have in common and which identifies them as Nordic-Iranians. Obviously those described by Angel in the text.