Rhine Nordid & Weser Nordid

[Bojo]

What are these local races?
Rhine Nordid = Local variety of North Atlantid?
Weser Nordid = Nordid+Faelid?

Hello,

I think the "Rhine Nordid" or Rhenish Nordid is a mixture of the continental Keltic- and Sub-Nordid types, the later invading Hallstatt type (the individuals with pred. admixture of those are often considered "Etruscans"), and, to a lesser extend, of the local types of Borreby and Dalo-falid. Rhenish Nordids make up ca. 10 percent of the german and 25-30 percent of the north-rhine-westphalian population. It is also common in the bordering parts of the netherlands and belgium, and in several parts of the US-northern midwest and canadian southwest (as a result of immigration).

The Weser Nordid mainly descends from the Hallstatt type with large admixture of the Dalo-falid type. Individuals often show Anglo-Saxon and Borreby strains. It is very related to the continental Anglo-Saxon, North German and Jute types. The Weser Nordid is fewer than the Rhenish and makes up ca. 2-4 percent of the german population and 10-15 percent of the Lower Saxons. It is also common in East Westphalia and Anhalt (as well as several overseas areas as a result of immigartion).

I hope I could help you.

[Yago]

Originally Posted by Eduardo L. Ramirez

I think the "Rhine Nordid" or Rhenish Nordid is a mixture of the continental Keltic- and Sub-Nordid types, the later invading Hallstatt type (the individuals with pred. admixture of those are often considered "Etruscans")

How come individuals with predominant admixture of a Keltic and sub-Nordid mixture... are considered "Etruscans"? Considering that Etruscans were a Near East people as confirmed by genetics and that their depictions point to a probably mixture of East Mediterranid and Orientalid, the statement is odd.

http://forum.stirpes.net/genetics-hu...tic-study.html
http://forum.stirpes.net/genetics-hu...etruscans.html

I've read that they were called so because of the relative phenotypical similarity to old etruscan bones and persons displayed by antique art.

e.g.: Rhineland

But I also don't think that there's any closer relation genetically.

[Yago]

I guess that they see what they want to see..

Why have they added portraits painted by El Greco to the gallery? Do they ignore that El Greco painted the traits extremely elongated? You cannot possibly use paints from El Greco for this and still pretend that it is not a joke.

Anyway, this Spanish woman looks Atlanto-Mediterranean to me, not West Mediterranid. But it is probable a little of both.

[Amorsite]

Rhineland

I wouldn't take all this any seriously, from a morphological viewpoint those comparisons seem to be of little to no value.



hmmm ok

Originally Posted by NatVox

I guess that they see what they want to see..

Why have they added portraits painted by El Greco to the gallery? Do they ignore that El Greco painted the traits extremely elongated? You cannot possibly use paints from El Greco for this and still pretend that it is not a joke.

Anyway, this Spanish woman looks Atlanto-Mediterranean to me, not West Mediterranid. But it is probable a little of both.

I also think that it's quite difficult to differ between the aurid types. An Irish person for example can look a lot more mediterranid than an Italian (they are largely alpine and dinarid and that's what my ancestry's too, mixed with Atlanto-Med and Amerindian on the "spanish" side). Or take the Persian "Irano-Nordids". Are they more related to the Nordid or the Med types? In case of the Rhenish Nordid type I think the look in itself differs that much that many individuals can be seen as "Hallstatt" while others range from Brünn-close individuals over more Dalo-falid-likes to the Corded phenotypical look (not necessarily as a result of intermixture), but always a "rhenish" attitude shimmers through (whatever that might be, btw, only about 30 percent of the Rhenish Germans are pred. Nordid...).
In my opinion, there are very few stabalized looks at all.