The Sinoid spectrum in East Asia

[Agrippa]

This is mostly a summary of various other threads about that topic from Dodona:
The Sinid spectrum is very important for the Mongolid race, its the most numerous and culturally most evolved group, includes the great nations of China, Korea and Japan. The Sinoid spectrum also includes the Palaemongolid reduced-infantilised, and partly with Weddoid-Negritid types mixed groups of the South, which became their Mongolid component from the Sinoids in various waves.
As I said the main facts are:
A) There are two basic Mongolid types of the North, SINID AND TUNGID.
B) In Sinids is a gradient from North to South which was distorted by the Han Chinese and other movements, but the real indigenous populations still show a clear pattern (aka Manchu - North vs Yao - South).
Pictures from anthropological books:
As for the basic difference between Tungids and Sinids, just look at this thread:
Pictures of the human races of the world and useful maps
Especially this examples which are from a book from the 1996:
http://img184.echo.cx/my.php?image=knussmanns4342mg.jpg
The morphological differences between the two types of the North (Tungid and Sinid) are just obvious. The typical low forehead, broad-flat-fat face with massive cheekbones of Tungids is just typical, as are the higher, finer, narrower and more differentiated faces of the Sinid type:
http://img184.echo.cx/my.php?image=knussmanns4342mg.jpg
The Tibetan is Mittelsinid, a Nordsinid would be even more extreme like you can see on this picture:
http://img101.echo.cx/my.php?image=2044ce.jpg
Some generalised metrical differences from the (Northern) Sinid to the Palaemongolid (Southern) areas:
.) higher body height.
.) higher skelic index (shorter legs).
.) with some regional exceptions lower LBI
.) lower HLI
.) higher absolute middle face height
.) lower nasal index on the skull
.) lighter pigmentation
Map:
http://img200.echo.cx/my.php?image=rassenasiens8mq.jpg
Pictures of the human races of the world and useful maps

For Eastern Chinese (not the West) coastline its like that: Northernmost - Tungids: broad face, high LBI, low HLI, strong subcutaneous fat, extreme Mongolid features (epicanthus, high cheekbones etc.), medium-tall, etc.
North - Nordsinids: narrow face+noses, low LBI, high HLI, medium (for Mongolids) subcutaneous fat, Mongolid features, tall, light pigmented etc.
Central - Mittelsinids: two variants, one rather broad faced, other medium-narrow faced, higher LBI, but regional differences, high HLI, medium fat, Mongolid features, medium-tall, medium pigmented for the region etc.
Southern - Suedsinids: broader faces, noses+higher LBI on average, regional differences, very high HLI, lower fat, Mongolid features weaker, medium-short, stronger pigmented, longer legs etc.
Furthermore Mittelsinid is really not the best term, but still the most useful one, for variants in question. Because the coastal group which is what you described (broad faced-headed etc.) is just one element. Whereas Nordsinid is clear and Suedsinids again, Mittelsinid is really a term for grouping all the groups in between together, including the main variant, mainly on the Central Chinese coastal region, but expanding to the South.
The Tibetids, which some, most include into the Mittelsinid spectrum, is a different subtype obviously, but certain features they have in common.
The more dry Northern millet farmer and nomadic regions below the Tungid centres, the central Hwangho was and mostly is a Nordsinid centre. Mittelsinids are more common in the rice farmer areas of the great rivers. The Nordsinids were the "original Chinese" and expanded Southwards, assimilating first the Mittelsinid rice farmers and then the Suedsinid farmers and H-G groups. They pressed them partly Southwards, empires in the South, Manchuria was slowly made (Nord-) Sinid by race too.
Most typical populations Manchu, Lolo (Yi - original group-upper class) for Nordsinid, Miao Mittelsinid, Yao Suedsinid.

[Agrippa]

Nordsinids show clear Mongolid features (unlike the partly similar looking Dayakid-Palaemongolids of some areas which have quite often high bridged noses etc. too).
Typical is a higher FI and NI (long-narrow face and nose compared to other Mongolid core types), higher body height on average, more leptomorphic build, mesocephalic to dolichocephalic mostly, the seldom brachycephalics have a turriform/dinariomorphic (narrow-short-high) head form.
Typical Nordsinid-Tungid North Korean:

Pred. Nordsinid Koreans:

The Coshu or Jakunin-type (Lundman)/Cosiu (Saller) of Japan and Korea: More common in the upper class, basically a mixture out of Nordsinid with progressive Palaemongolid and Ainuid admixture and social selection involved. Refined features, narrower face and nose, which is more often aquiline/convex nose, but overall still Mongolid appearance:

Jakunin type, Shichinosuke Nakamura:

More Nordsinid-Jakunin Japanese actress Koyuki:

Pred. Nordsinid-Jakunin Seizo Fukumoto:


Pred. Nordsinid Manchu (especially left girl):

Manchu man of Nordsinid type:

Manchu woman of Nordsinid type:


Pred. Nordsinid Lolo (Yi):


Lolo (Yi) man with baby, Nordsinid type:

Pred. Nordsinid Han Chinese actress Zhang Ziyi:

Pred. Nordsinid Chinese man from London:

Pred. Nordsinid Chinese man from Beijing:

More Chinese Nordsinids from Beijing:


Mittelsinid Tibetans (Tibetid type) which is quite close to Nordsinids:


Pred. Mittelsinid Miao:

The variant which is close to Tibetids from a Miao group:

More typical Mittesinids from the Miao:

Pred. Suedsinid Yao, on the border to Palaemongolid variants:



Compared with the Southern Palaemongolid-Weddoid belt, even pure forms of Pre-Mongoloid Eastweddids in Burmese-Combodian areas:
http://dodona.proboards35.com/index....8992922&page=6
Images:
http://www.swan.ac.uk/visualanthropo...ithographs.htm
Even there the Sinid influence is in the Singpho Chief clearly visible (left man):

About the Singpho/Kachins:
http://www.geocities.com/zawaung_2000/kachin3.htm

[Agrippa]

More textbook examples from North to South:
Tungid:


Nordsinid:


Mittelsinid:


Suedsinid:


Fine featured (balanced paedomorphic) Palaemongolid:

[roddy]

what is the meaning of HLI and LBI?please tell me

[Agrippa]

Originally Posted by roddy

what is the meaning of HLI and LBI?please tell me

HLI = Height-Length Index which measures the relative head height by comparing the length with the height.

Compare:
Definition of length-height+index - Merriam-Webster\'s Medical Dictionary
Definition: vertical index from Online Medical Dictionary

LBI = Length-Breadth Index which measures the relative breadth of the skull by comparing it with the length, which gives a general impression of the headshape. Compare with Cephalic index:
Cephalic index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia