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Thanks to Nordgau, Gareth and Gbloco and this thread on Dodona:
http://dodona.proboards35.com/index....num=1093584046
its not necessary to translate the phenotypical descriptions of the Amerindian types myself and the examples are very good as well.

Here the translation of a German text by Nordgau:

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Here a brief description of the main anthropological sub-forms of the Indianid branch of the Mongolids (Taken from a book and translated into lousy English; sorry, there are enough pictures and maps, but I can't post them).

Pacifid race: Medium until tall grown, robust build; brachycephal; broad, rectangular face with only little emphasized cheekbones; rarely mongoloid characteristics of the eye region; medium broad, striking nose with straight or slight convex bridge profile; broad mouth line, thin lips; smooth or slightly wavy hair (sporadically lightened), beard and body hair medium strong, light brownish skin (frequently with a tinge of yellow).
Spreading: West Canadian coast and eastern Alaska; outskirts in northwestern U.S.A. and on the Rio Grande (Navajo, Apaches).

Silvid race: Tall and broad grown, robust build; mesocephal; longish-rectangular face with clear, even if moderate facial flatness, but with a very striking, narrow till medium broad nose with a convex, now and then even hooked bridge profile ("aquiline nose"); sometimes narrow, slanting eyelid slit and Mongolian fold (especially among children, among women more often than among men); broad mouth line, thin lips, often strong nasolabial folds, strong chin, smooth or tight hair, light-brown to medium brown skin with a tinge of yellow, red or copper.
Spreading: Wood region from middle to eastern Canada, Appalaches (Mohicans, Delawares, Iroquois), prairie region of the "Middle West" (Sioux = Dakota).

Margid race: Mostly medium grown, robust bone structure; mesocephal till dolichocephal, inclined forehead with emphasis of the bulge region above the eyes; low-broad face without facial flattness; small eyelid slit without Mongoloid characteristics; medium broad till broad, moderately prominent nose with a clearly retracted root and straight or concave bridge profile; moderately full lips, often slightely receding chin, smooth hair, dark brown skin with slight red tone.
Spreading: California, Sonara, widely scattered remains in Mexico, in the Rocky Mountains (Shoshons), in Florida and at the eastern coast area up to Newfoundland.

Centralid race: Medium or small grown, stocky; very brachycephal; relatively steep, but narrow forehead, rectangular face with only little emphasized cheekbones and relatively gracile features; mongoloid characteristics of the eye rare; medium broad till broad, striking nose with straight or slightly convex bridge profile; broad mouth line, moderately full lips, often slightly receding chin; smooth or slight wavy hair, medium brown, partly also fair brown skin (Albinos relatively often).
Spreading: Southern coast area of the U.S.A. and up to New Mexico and Arizona (Pueblo Indians, e. g. Hopi), eastern and southern Mexico (Maya, Azteks descendants), Central America, western Columbia.

Brasilid race: small grown, stocky, among the female sex plump build and strong lumbar lordose, but small bottom; mesocephal, relatively steep, broad forehead; oval face with only little emphasized cheekbones and soft features; mostly narrow eyelid slit, but only rarely pronounced mongoloid characteristics of the eye region; medium-broad till broad nose with high root; full until full lips, often tendency to receding of the chin; smooth or slightly wavy hair, light brown until brown skin with a clear yellow tone, sometimes also dull reddish.
Spreading: Jungle of the Amazonas bassin and the adjacent highlands in the North and South, coast areas of Brazil, Venezuela and Guayana, West Indian Isles.

Andid race: Small grown, stocky; mesocephal till brachycephal, mostly clear inclined forehead; longish-oval, among women also plump face with clear emphasis of the cheekbones; mostly no marked mongoloid characteristics of the eye region, but strong "Indian fold"; medium broad, striking nose with relatively high root and straight or convex bridge profile (sometimes slight hooked nose), nose ground often sinked forward; medium broad until broad mouth line, moderately full lips, striking chin; smooth hair, medium brown till brown skin with olive tone (especially on the sunny high-planes, in valleys more yellowish-medium brown).
Spreading: Andes (Quechua [= Inka] in the middle, Araucanians in the southern part) and coast of Ecuador, Peru and northern Chile.

Pampid (= Patagonid) race: Tall or very tall grown, broad, robust build; mesocephal or brachycephal, emphasized bulge region above the eyes; big, rectangular face with clear, even if moderate facial flatness; narrow eyelid slit with clear "Indian fold"; narrow till medium broad, mostly striking nose, mostly with straight bridge profile; medium broad until broad mouth line, moderately full or full lips; smooth hair, medium brown (in the South light brown) skin with olive tone.
Spreading: Grassland of Patagonia, of the pampas and of the Gran Chaco.

Lagid race: Medium or small grown, moderately stocky; mesocephal until dolichocephal; emphasized bulge region above eyes, robust facial skull with broad cheekbones, but without clear facial flatness; low-broad eye sockets, narrow eyelid slit, but no marked mongoloid characteristics nof the eye region; broad (in the South only medium broad) nose with clearly retracted root and straight or concave bridge profile; broad mouth line, moderately full or full lips, often slightly receding chin, smooth or wavy hair, light brown skin with yellow or copper tone.
Spreading: Mountainous country of southeastern Brazil, southern Chile as well as scattered remains in the grassland of Argentina and Paraguay and in the jungle of Brazil.

Pazifid:


Silvid:


Margid:


Zentralids have great variation:

North:


Central (look at the hyperbrachycephaly of certain Zentralid variants, especially common under the reduced Maya variant):


South:


Brasilid:
From the Amazonas:


From the Caribbean:


Andid:



Amazonian Brasilids, Andid Kechua (Quechua):



More pictures can be found here:
Pictures of the human races of the world and useful maps

Map of North and South America (from Historia Mundi Vol. I):

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Amerindians are incredibly variable. They can vary from tribe to tribe within a small area. Some look like paleoeuropeans such as the skull found at Bruen. Some are roundheaded and infantile looking. Some shade into eskimos. Some in the eastern USA and Canada have body builds which are similar to Europeans and some look nothing like that at all.
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Surely the Silvid is the quintessential "popular" type associated with America....

There is a Native American house at the college nearby and many of the residents are from Arizona and other parts of the American southwest. Now that I've seen some plates and descriptions, I would say that many of them would fall into the Magrid category.
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Surely the Silvid is the quintessential "popular" type associated with America....

There is a Native American house at the college nearby and many of the residents are from Arizona and other parts of the American southwest. Now that I've seen some plates and descriptions, I would say that many of them would fall into the Magrid category.
Sounds realistic if looking at their distribution.
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Map of the various Amerindian ethnolinguistic groups for comparison:

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About the so called "negrid features" of some olmec sculptures:





Wouldn't them be associated to these, rather?:







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