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Hairy mongoloids? Do you have examples for that? Is it existing?
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Hairy mongoloids? Do you have examples for that? Is it existing?
Probably yes. Among the billions of them it is statistically impossible that there are not at least some of them who might be hairy.
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I agree with you. I've only seen a few. Even they weren't particularly hairy when compared to much hairer Armenoids. Mongoloids are definitely not know for hirsutism. Even Europeoid types with weak, ancient Mongolid admixture (Mark, Lundman), such as East-Baltids, are known to have weaker beard growth than most other Europids. We're talking about the overall impression or the average. There are always individual exceptions.

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Ainu appear to be hairier (notice the beards):





Maybe some mixed Mongoloids from the former Solviet republics are also hairier?
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Ainu are known for their hirsutism. They are not known to be particularly Mongoloid. They have been connected to Australoid, or even proto-Europid, like the Veddoids.
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Ainu are known for their hirsutism. They are not known to be particularly Mongoloid. They have been connected to Australoid, or even proto-Europid, like the Veddoids.
Yes I know, but I can't name any hairy pure Mongoloids, actually.
Now, I remember seeing a hairy Jap, but I guess he had some Ainu ancenstry as well.
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That's alright. Ainu are a good example of hairy people living in East Asia.

Do you know from where in Japan he comes from?

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Now, I remember seeing a hairy Jap, but I guess he had some Ainu ancenstry as well.
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That's alright. Ainu are a good example of hairy people living in East Asia.

Do you know from where in Japan he comes from?
Unfortunately, not.
It would be good if anyone find some pictures and info about hairy Mongoloid people - hairy Chinease or hairy Koreans, for example.
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I agree with you. I've only seen a few. Even they weren't particularly hairy when compared to much hairer Armenoids. Mongoloids are definitely not know for hirsutism. Even Europeoid types with weak, ancient Mongolid admixture (Mark, Lundman), such as East-Baltids, are known to have weaker beard growth than most other Europids. We're talking about the overall impression or the average. There are always individual exceptions.
1. East-Baltids are NOt mixed with mingoloids. Do tou want sources?

2. I am east-baltid. Can you explain why I have dark and much hair at my legs, arms and chest and shoulders then?

3. I dont think thats is unusuall. Havent you seen the old "funny-thing" "Finlands hairiest man?"
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Finns and estonians, and even lapps can be hairy. They who says that they are mongoloids are...LOL!
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2. I am east-baltid. Can you explain why I have dark and much hair at my legs, arms and chest and shoulders then?
A larger sample would be needed to draw some conclusions, noz just you.

As for Ainus, I think they are even considered "White" by some WNs.
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Finns and estonians, and even lapps can be hairy. They who says that they are mongoloids are...LOL!
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A larger sample would be needed to draw some conclusions, noz just you.

As for Ainus, I think they are even considered "White" by some WNs.
1. Of course, but it is more than just me. Or dont you think it is many examples for hairy east baltids?

2. And have can one say that east-baltids are mixed with mongoloids!?

3. Ainus are not mongoloids.
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MONGOLOIDS, not caucaoids!
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If the east-baltid not can be hairy...If the east-baltids are mongoloids. What shall I do then? Expensive to take all the hair away with laser-diod light...

Hairy and east-baltid is wrong then...?
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1. Of course, but it is more than just me. Or dont you think it is many examples for hairy east baltids?
I don't think anything, you live there, I suppose you know better.

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2. And have can one say that east-baltids are mixed with mongoloids!?
Who ever said that? Obviously, they haven't Mongoloid faces, only through genetical evidence there could be proved a presence or an absene of Mongoloid elements in them

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3. Ainus are not mongoloids.
May I ask you, are you of Vepsian origin, since you took this username?

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I don't think anything, you live there, I suppose you know better.



Who ever said that? Obviously, they haven't Mongoloid faces, only through genetical evidence there could be proved a presence or an absene of Mongoloid elements in them



May ask you, are you of Vepsian origin, since you took this username?

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Exeter in #3 say that east-baltids are mongoloids and mongoloid-mixed.

I am mixed with vepsä-tavastian and karelian and some from western europe. But my race is wrong, because I am not light and wothout hair on the body. THats wrong, my skull is east-baltid, my body is not. I dont know what to do, seriosly!
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White nationalist authors did claim for some time that the Ainu were Caucasian. I'm not sure how much can you can blame idiots for saying idiotic things..
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Authors: Tajima, Atsushi1; Hayami, Masanori2; Tokunaga, Katsushi3; Juji, Takeo4; Matsuo, Masafumi5; Marzuki, Sangkot6; Omoto, Keiichi7; Horai, Satoshi8

Source: Journal of Human Genetics, Volume 49, Number 4, April 2004 , pp. 187-193(7)

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The Ainu, a minority ethnic group from the northernmost island of Japan, was investigated for DNA polymorphisms both from maternal (mitochondrial DNA) and paternal (Y chromosome) lineages extensively. Other Asian populations inhabiting North, East, and Southeast Asia were also examined for detailed phylogeographic analyses at the mtDNA sequence type as well as Y-haplogroup levels. The maternal and paternal gene pools of the Ainu contained 25 mtDNA sequence types and three Y-haplogroups, respectively. Eleven of the 25 mtDNA sequence types were unique to the Ainu and accounted for over 50% of the population, whereas 14 were widely distributed among other Asian populations. Of the 14 shared types, the most frequently shared type was found in common among the Ainu, Nivkhi in northern Sakhalin, and Koryaks in the Kamchatka Peninsula. Moreover, analysis of genetic distances calculated from the mtDNA data revealed that the Ainu seemed to be related to both the Nivkhi and other Japanese populations (such as mainland Japanese and Okinawans) at the population level. On the paternal side, the vast majority (87.5%) of the Ainu exhibited the Asian-specific YAP+ lineages (Y-haplogroups D-M55* and D-M125), which were distributed only in the Japanese Archipelago in this analysis. On the other hand, the Ainu exhibited no other Y-haplogroups (C-M8, O-M175*, and O-M122*) common in mainland Japanese and Okinawans. It is noteworthy that the rest of the Ainu gene pool was occupied by the paternal lineage (Y-haplogroup C-M217*) from North Asia including Sakhalin. Thus, the present findings suggest that the Ainu retain a certain degree of their own genetic uniqueness, while having higher genetic affinities with other regional populations in Japan and the Nivkhi among Asian populations.


Affiliations: 1: Department of Biosystems Science, The Graduate University for Advanced Studies (Sokendai), Hayama, Kanagawa 240-0193, Japan, 2: Laboratory of Viral Pathogenesis, Institute for Virus Research, Kyoto University, Kyoto, Japan, 3: Department of Human Genetics, Graduate School of Medicine, University of Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan, 4: Japanese Red Cross Central Blood Center, Tokyo, Japan, 5: Division of Pediatrics, Department of Development and Aging, Kobe University Graduate School of Medicine, Kobe, Japan, 6: Eijkman Institute for Molecular Biology, Jakarta, Indonesia, 7: St. Andrew's University, Osaka, Japan, 8: Department of Biosystems Science, The Graduate University for Advanced Studies (Sokendai), Hayama, Kanagawa 240-0193, Japan, Email: horai@soken.ac.jp
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