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Well I decided to post this since it is part of a historic event but not only because of that it is also a subject that can be useful for a debate, the idea o Europe a Nation (pan-europeism) does not fit in with the principles of Stripes Forum which is pro European Identitarians.
I am personally not a pan-europeist since I believe in the ethnic diversity of Europe (I am not referring to the political correct multiracial ethnic diversity ) But still I find pan-european ideas very attractive, there must be European Unity if we are to get anywhere if the national identity’s of all European nations are to be preserved the capitalist system which promotes and desires multiracial societies without any national pride or any national identity must be crushed at European level, thus requiring the unity of all nationalists.My ideal view of Europe would be of a united European Super state, where the ethnic and national identities of all European nations would be preserved a Confederation of free nations. In my opinion the ideas of Mosly and others are an example for us to follow obviously we do not intend to make Europe a Nation but if we are to preserve the ethnic and racial heritage of all European peoples we should unite against the common beast which is capitalism. Like Alain de Benoist said he who doesn’t complain about capitalism should not complain about immigration. Quote:
Last edited by Der; Wednesday, December 27th, 2006 at 22:38. |
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No, Stirpes does not have an official Identitarian agenda. There is room for Identitarians and sympathy as well as criticism to individual ideas propagated by Identitarians.
You are likely to find more Nationalists than Identitarians here, and people in between those two. Identitarianism in fact leans towards a pan-Europeanist view which is essentially in conflict with the views of Traditional Nationalism. However, it is possible to find strong points of encounter between the ethnic conception of the Identitarians and the national conception of the Nationalists. After all, the basis for a nation is the ethnic component. To define a political model for Europe based upon national sovereignties and ethnic preservation is not as easy as it looks. It is surely challenging.
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accipiet reduces. Antiquam exquirite matrem: hic domus Aeneae cunctis dominabitur oris, et nati natorum, et qui nascentur ab illis.' We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. –Plato– |
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'Dardanidae duri, quae uos a stirpe parentum prima tulit tellus, eadem uos ubere laeto
accipiet reduces. Antiquam exquirite matrem: hic domus Aeneae cunctis dominabitur oris, et nati natorum, et qui nascentur ab illis.' We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. –Plato– |
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Nah, I don't think he was weird. Ok maybe we don't agree with his world or european view but that's not to say that it is weird.
That global concept of Europe wich he defended was based on the fact that at one poit or another most European nations have shared cultural patrons. As in the culture expanded through Europe by the romans. Quote:
If that unity isn't established things are going to look grey. Any ways I don't think that this unity will ever be established and when it comes it will be to little to late. |
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I agree on the need for unity and I know too that the day that people realize it will be too late. It is, in fact, late for some already. And things do not happen overnight. However, there are also reasons for the opposite. Namely, negative influences.
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accipiet reduces. Antiquam exquirite matrem: hic domus Aeneae cunctis dominabitur oris, et nati natorum, et qui nascentur ab illis.' We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. –Plato– |
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Any way this is just a historical article. But another issue is also the fact that if you are a nationalist now a days they will just call you a "nazi" even if your not as a way to discredit you. |
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Last edited by Kernunnos; Thursday, March 22nd, 2007 at 21:55. |
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