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Black History Month -- Has it outlived its usefulness?

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Actor Morgan Freeman reignited debate over whether Black History Month is necessary when he called the observance "ridiculous" on national television.

"You're going to relegate my history to a month?" Freeman asked in an interview broadcast on "60 Minutes" in December. "I don't want a black history month. Black history is American history."
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I somewhat agree with Morgan Freeman as long as they teach the TRUE BLACK HISTORY and not the usual BS about blacks virtually inventing the whole XXth century, the falatious "black spark igniting the fire of all ancient civilisations" and other B series tales.

I once found on the web an exposition on black history (unless it was refering to the black history month itself) titled "Black history:2.500.000 of inventions" !!!!!!!

2.500.000 years??? How old is just the Homo Sapiens (not to tlak the Homo sapiens sapiens) himself???
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Heh, how typically American, how typically 'positive discrimination'. Blacks get jobs and university access thanks to positive discrimination (of course, not all or even most(?)), now they get a month a year to focus on their history, because it is too irrelevant otherwise. Funny. Although I understand that they want to know their history and their roots, this is one of the prices of multicultural society, I guess. In America's case its perhaps more multiracial, but still.
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Hell everybody gets a fucking month. March is Womens History Month, and october is now Hispanic History Month.
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I somewhat agree with Morgan Freeman as long as they teach the TRUE BLACK HISTORY and not the usual BS about blacks virtually inventing the whole XXth century, the falatious "black spark igniting the fire of all ancient civilisations" and other B series tales.

I once found on the web an exposition on black history (unless it was refering to the black history month itself) titled "Black history:2.500.000 of inventions" !!!!!!!

2.500.000 years??? How old is just the Homo Sapiens (not to tlak the Homo sapiens sapiens) himself???
I went to my local library yesterday, and saw a book called "Black athens". It was a collection of essays explaining how the Greeks have afro-centric roots! I have also seen a shirt that says "The first civilization" and it has a black guy building a pyramid...
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I went to my local library yesterday, and saw a book called "Black athens". It was a collection of essays explaining how the Greeks have afro-centric roots! I have also seen a shirt that says "The first civilization" and it has a black guy building a pyramid...

One day, I'll launch a mark of t-shirts reproducing ancient Egyptian frescoes displaying the pharaohs in war againts the black nubians; Horemheb and Tutankhamuns tombs displays such frescoes ...

Even if ancient Egyptians had some negroid admixture; so what? to begin with the first civilisations come to life in Messopotamia and western white civilisation has no old egyptian influences. Sumer civilisation is more relevant to our history than Egypt.

No later than this monday in France the date of may 10th has been retained for a new "holiday" for the black communities; it will conmemorate all the stuff related to the slavery ... taken by itself I don't see no objection to that but remains yet a detail that unnerves me; and it is the fact that all politics and Pc-centrist historians chose to ignore the fact were the own blacks who sold their kinsmen into slavery to the arabs, long time before europeans begun to import black slave man power, and then to Europeans.
I even dare say that virtually all African nation today is ruled by the descendents of those black slave traders.
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No later than this monday in France the date of may 10th has been retained for a new "holiday" for the black communities; it will conmemorate all the stuff related to the slavery ... taken by itself I don't see no objection to that but remains yet a detail that unnerves me; and it is the fact that all politics and Pc-centrist historians chose to ignore the fact were the own blacks who sold their kinsmen into slavery to the arabs, long time before europeans begun to import black slave man power, and then to Europeans.
And they'll blame all on Europeans and elude the fact that it was actually Europeans who first fought slave trade and even abolished it.
So I propose May, 10 as a date to celebrate and remember European philanthropy instead.

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That's true. What an irony!
We're used to hear blacks complaining about slavery over and over again, when their direct ancestors never were slaves nor did they suffer from this European slavery.

In fact, the descendents of slaves in Africa are few, maybe some live in Liberia. There, the free slaves weren't so kind with the locals from what I heard. So if Africans had to suffer, it was from their own kins. Slavery still exist in Africa today, and it's not due to Europeans so who's bad?...
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So I propose May, 10 as a date to celebrate and remember European philanthropy instead.

"Tous les chemins menent à Rome" (all the roads drive to Rome) I agree. Because when you talk about abolition of slavery, medical campaigns to fight weird illnesses in distant lands, emancipation of colonized and enslaved nations, all these topics lead in general to the action of European philanthropy; just consider the thread openend a few months ago by Mynnydh about the spanish doctor who reconstituted genetal organs for kenyan boys victim of their kinsmen's stupid beliefs; Lawrence of Arabia who leaded the arab nations to emancipate from the ottoman

About the 10 may, for the french speakers:
http://www.lefigaro.fr/societe/20060...27.html?194234

and in englisc:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4662442.stm
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Well, February is the shortest month, fitting for a Black History month if it were not for the fact that this is already February 5th and we are all out of black history already.
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Black History Month Raises Issues of How We Remember the Past, Think About the Future, Duke Professors Say

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[...] "Black History Month has become part of the marketing of the idea of multiculturalism and pluralism in the United States," Neal said. "It's a selling point, not necessarily a lived reality."
Duke sociology research professor Eduardo Bonilla-Silva said Americans need to not only acknowledge the real struggles and conflict of the Civil Rights era, but face up to the racial realities of today.
"First, we must acknowledge that blacks, despite the advances made in the 1960s and 1970s, lag still well behind whites in almost all social indicators," said Duke sociology research professor Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, who specializes in the study of racial stratification in the United States. "Second, we must also realize that the face of the nation has become increasingly more brown."
The bulk of this new Latino population is fast joining the ranks of the working poor and, thus, socially, economically and symbolically becoming "black-like," Bonilla-Silva said. But a small segment of the Latino population -- usually Latinos with lighter skin -- are treated as "honorary whites" by white America, and are more accepted and assimilated, he said.
"The historical black-white divide may remain, but it may become more complex and even add a little bit of gray in the middle," he said. "Thus, in this year's Black History Month celebration, we may want to take account of both the new `black-like,' as well as the `honorary white,' segments of the Latino population, and examine the role they will play in the future of America."
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Black Invention Myths

Perhaps you've heard the claims: Were it not for the genius and energy of African-American inventors, we might find ourselves in a world without traffic lights, peanut butter, blood banks, light bulb filaments, and a vast number of other things we now take for granted but could hardly imagine life without.

Such beliefs usually originate in books or articles about black history. Since many of the authors have little interest in the history of technology outside of advertising black contributions to it, their stories tend to be fraught with misunderstandings, wishful thinking, or fanciful embellishments with no historical basis. The lack of historical perspective leads to extravagant overestimations of originality and importance: sometimes a slightly modified version of a pre-existing piece of technology is mistaken for the first invention of its type; sometimes a patent or innovation with little or no lasting value is portrayed as a major advance, even if there's no real evidence it was ever used.

http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/
Black Invention Myths

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http://www.naawp.com/black_invention_myths.htm


See also:

A collection of images from ancient Egyptian history, all of which clearly demonstrate the racial make-up of that society and how it changed - from a White racially dominated society in 3000 BC, to that civilization's swamping and overrunning by its Black Nubian and Semitic neighbors around the year 800 BC.

http://www.white-history.com/egg1.htm
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The Ancient Egypt "Race" Issue
A rebuttal to Afrocentric exaggerations about a "black" ancient Egypt

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Race of the Ancient Egyptians



More:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrocentrism
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A collection of images from ancient Egyptian history, all of which clearly demonstrate the racial make-up of that society and how it changed - from a White racially dominated society in 3000 BC, to that civilization's swamping and overrunning by its Black Nubian and Semitic neighbors around the year 800 BC.

http://www.white-history.com/egg1.htm
LOL. Repudiating one BS with one-other. That's really funny. Kemp? What's next? Quoting Mr. Bean? BTW I don't have problems with the fact that ancient egyptians had some negroid admixture. No offence but it is really a signal of a serious mental retardation to quote a pity, childish, internet propaganda from a likely retarded person. Let me laugh once again:
"from a White racially dominated society in 3000 BC, to that civilization's swamping and overrunning by its Black Nubian and Semitic neighbors around the year 800 BC."
Don't you find this a bit stupid? A bit childish? Wanna-be?
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Black Invention Myths

Perhaps you've heard the claims: Were it not for the genius and energy of African-American inventors, we might find ourselves in a world without traffic lights, peanut butter, blood banks, light bulb filaments, and a vast number of other things we now take for granted but could hardly imagine life without.

Such beliefs usually originate in books or articles about black history. Since many of the authors have little interest in the history of technology outside of advertising black contributions to it, their stories tend to be fraught with misunderstandings, wishful thinking, or fanciful embellishments with no historical basis. The lack of historical perspective leads to extravagant overestimations of originality and importance: sometimes a slightly modified version of a pre-existing piece of technology is mistaken for the first invention of its type; sometimes a patent or innovation with little or no lasting value is portrayed as a major advance, even if there's no real evidence it was ever used.

http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/
Black Invention Myths

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http://www.naawp.com/black_invention_myths.htm


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A collection of images from ancient Egyptian history, all of which clearly demonstrate the racial make-up of that society and how it changed - from a White racially dominated society in 3000 BC, to that civilization's swamping and overrunning by its Black Nubian and Semitic neighbors around the year 800 BC.

http://www.white-history.com/egg1.htm
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LOL. Repudiating one BS with one-other. That's really funny. Kemp? What's next? Quoting Mr. Bean? BTW I don't have problems with the fact that ancient egyptians had some negroid admixture. No offence but it is really a signal of a serious mental retardation to quote a pity, childish, internet propaganda from a likely retarded person. Let me laugh once again:
"from a White racially dominated society in 3000 BC, to that civilization's swamping and overrunning by its Black Nubian and Semitic neighbors around the year 800 BC."
Don't you find this a bit stupid? A bit childish? Wanna-be?
Read the articles before making some irrelevant comments. Clearly you don't even know what this is alll about...
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SPQR, pls, do not be deceiveful, not Kempy, pls
What's wrong with Kemp?

I could provide you with less popular texts, though.
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