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How dare he sue the state, given the fact that he was too mildly punished and not too harshly? He got only six years for killing nine people (non-soldiers), among whom there was one pregnant woman and a child.
In their earlier statements he and his lawyer claimed that his advanced age should save him from being put on trial, but it seems that his advanced age does not prevent him from being shameless. Last edited by Marcus Marulus; Saturday, June 28th, 2008 at 11:51. |
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I can imagine the Russian media having a field-day with this. "Fascist Latvia wants to imprison glorious liberator".
Sigh.
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Defending his nation by shooting its people?
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Yes, Vasili is very typical 'LATVIAN' name
. Efraim Zuroff wants to get every single man from Baltic Waffen-SS Legions to Israeli court but NKVD killers are sacred glorious liberators. One of the most known of them in Estonia was a guy named Idel Jakobson. Guess his nationality . |
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Den västerländska traditionen kan man vara trogen bara genom att ifrågasätta den med förnuftet som måttstock. Svante Nordin, Det pessimistiska förnuftet Wir haben eine ältere Offenbarung als jede geschriebene, die Natur. Friedrich Schelling, Über das Wesen der menschlichen Freiheit The French were always there when they needed us. American proverb |
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Loorberitega Pärjatu said Idel Jakobson was one of NKVD killers and not SS-deputy.
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My mistake then. I assumed, from all the smilies, that there should be something "funny" about it, but I don't get it.
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Den västerländska traditionen kan man vara trogen bara genom att ifrågasätta den med förnuftet som måttstock. Svante Nordin, Det pessimistiska förnuftet Wir haben eine ältere Offenbarung als jede geschriebene, die Natur. Friedrich Schelling, Über das Wesen der menschlichen Freiheit The French were always there when they needed us. American proverb |
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I found an interesting article, here's something to get the idea:
"As far as I know, only three persons were shot to death and later found in the well. All the others were tortured to death. They numbered about a hundred. Nobody knows the exact number. The methods of torture were numerous; one man had his lips cut of, another his nose, his tongue and his ears. Many had their feet boiled, someone one foot and others both feet. There were also victims from whose backs pieces of skin were cut out and who had their hands bound behind their backs with barbed wire. A few had their eyes cut out. One woman had her breasts cut of. I was there when the bodies were removed from the cellars. During the day thousands of people came to look for their loved ones. Many found them. It was a horrible sight, one I will never forget ".The whole article: Communism and Crimes against Humanity in the Baltic states |
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I live in Russia, and speak the language, and often read such stories on the net. Despite my general Russophilia, I don't doubt that that sort of thing DID happen on occasion. Same goes for the stories of rape and torture of German women as the offensive moved westward. I would just respectfully like to be referred to some source that I could accept as reasonably objective. Do you know of any?
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I suppose the funnies is the double standards afforded to a Jewish NKVD "liberator" and the vile fascist "Nazis".
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How is it not objective if people tell their stories in various books, documentaries, interviews etc? Are they liars? Or what should be the objective way to speak about someone who takes you away from your home and sends to die in totally strange land? Those stories are written in local languages. They haven't been translated because nobody else cares. The USSR was great ally to Western powers during WWII, so it was better to keep silence. Is it possible that the whole generation of a nation remembers falsely? Or maybe then the whole Baltic nations were "fascists" and deserved their destiny. But that hasn't even been said about the Germans - I mean that they'd been all nazis... I am not exaggerating if I say that every family at least knew somebody who was deported. Those things really happened, it is no myth as some Russian chauvinists and their Finnish bootlicks want to say. |