Papers show France asked Britain for union in 1956

[Aptrgangr]

LONDON (Reuters) - Rivalry between Britain and France dates back centuries and their relationship is regularly described as love-hate at best.

But according to previously overlooked documents which have shocked historians, Paris and London were considering the unthinkable in the 1950s -- that the two countries could merge, and that the Queen could become France's head of state.
A British government document dating from 1956 shows that on September 10 that year, then French Prime Minister Guy Mollet came to London to discuss the possibility of a merger between the two countries with British Prime Minister Anthony Eden.
Eden rejected the idea, but according to historical papers, gave positive consideration to Mollet's next suggestion -- that France should be allowed to join the Commonwealth -- a group of nations with historic ties to Britain.
Commentators on both sides of the English channel were stunned by the documents.
"It's a glorious example of how Britain and France are doomed or blessed to always be intermingled," former Europe Minister Denis MacShane told Reuters. "It's a lovely addition to the eternal entanglement."
"The two countries' destinies have been linked ever since William the Conqueror tried to turn England into a French colony a thousand years ago."
A British government paper from 1956 reads: "When the French Prime Minister, Monsieur Mollet, was recently in London he raised with the Prime Minister the possibility of a union between the United Kingdom and France."
A further document dated September 28, 1956 says Eden thought in the light of his talks with the French:
"That we should give immediate consideration to France joining the Commonwealth; that Monsieur Mollet had not thought there need be difficulty over France accepting the headship of her Majesty; (and) that the French would welcome a common citizenship arrangement on the Irish basis."
At the time of Mollet's proposals, France was suffering economic difficulties from dealing with separatists in Algeria and a growing crisis over control of the Suez canal.
Henri Soutou, a history professor at Sorbonne University in Paris, said the idea was "preposterous". "The idea of (France) joining the Commonwealth and accepting the headship of Her Majesty would not have gone down well," he told BBC radio.
A spokeswoman for Britain's National Archive, which holds official papers, said the document lay unnoticed for many years.
MacShane said the revelation showed the "best bits of history are its footnotes".
He also predicted a similar love-hate future for the two nations. "France and England are like an old married couple who often think of killing each other, but would never dream of divorcing," he said.

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Frogs and Island Monkeys in one state? Never ever... 23kzrcy_th.gif3y6su8o_th.gif

[Menydh]

The British papers have had quite a good laught with those news. Most of them failing to mention that Churchill made such a proposal earlier than Mollet, in 1940.

Churchill\'s "No" to Europe - The Churchill Centre

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

The British papers have had quite a good laught with those news. Most of them failing to mention that Churchill made such a proposal earlier than Mollet, in 1940.

Churchill\'s "No" to Europe - The Churchill Centre

Like always... They'd never miss an occasion to laugh at the expense of he French.

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Aprtangr

The idea of (France) joining the Commonwealth and accepting the headship of Her Majesty would not have gone down well

That's an euphemism...
Fortunately de Gaulle overcame that bunch of traitors two years later.

[Menydh]

Who was him? Some kind of predecesor of Spanish PM Zapatero?

I fear the day when he comes with a new idea. The next might be a union with Morocco..

[Theobald]

Guy Mollet was a left-wing socialist and at the same time a hardcore atlantist and Anglophile... A typical Fourth Republic PM...
France was a mere American protectorate between 1946 and 1958.

[Carnyx]

He was an English teacher at that.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Theobald

Guy Mollet was a left-wing socialist and at the same time a hardcore atlantist and Anglophile... A typical Fourth Republic PM...
France was a mere American protectorate between 1946 and 1958.

I see. Contrary to what we are seeing today, it has been the more liberal elements of the left the ones who have traditionally looked at America as a model.

[Susi]

Originally Posted by Carnyx

Like always... They'd never miss an occasion to laugh at the expense of he French.

I think it has to do with all those longbow arrows sticking out of you

[Strengthandhonour]

I heard that during world war II someone had proposed that Britain became the 51st state of the US to see if they could get the support to win the war. I have never seen any official document though.

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by Susi

I think it has to do with all those longbow arrows sticking out of you

Furia Francese speaking: Même pas mal! Yeah we lost, but we never lost our balls on a battlefield.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Carnyx

Yeah we lost, but we never lost our balls on a battlefield.

Umh.. not sure that that's the reason why she.. uh... never mind!

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Umh.. not sure that that's the reason why she.. uh... never mind!

Who? What? No?