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Three German soldiers died on Tuesday amid heavy fighting in northern Afghanistan. The casualties are just the latest indication that security in the north, the region in which Germany leads the peacekeeping effort, is deteriorating.


The three German troops who died on Tuesday were travelling in an armored personnel carrier like this one.

For months, attacks on German troops operating in the northern Afghanistan region around Kunduz have been increasing. On Tuesday, three Bundeswehr soldiers died in yet another Taliban offensive.
According to the Defense Ministry in Berlin, Islamist insurgents attacked a patrol six kilometers southwest of Kunduz with grenade launchers and small arms fire. In the ensuing firefight, an armored personnel carrier plunged into a deep ditch full of water. Two soldiers died immediately in the accident and may have drowned. A third was pulled free of the wreck but died a short time later.
German Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung, visiting troops in the northern German city of Kiel on Tuesday, announced the tragedy. "I have bad news. Three soldiers in Afghanistan have died in the service of peace," he said. Those present held a moment of silence in honor of the fallen.

Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier spoke of a "cowardly attack" and said that "together with Afghan officials, we will do everything in our power to investigate the incident and bring those responsible to justice."
Mohammed Omar, the governor of Kunduz Province, told SPIEGEL ONLINE that the three German soldiers drowned in the accident. His description of the accident largely matched that of the Bundeswehr. "After the vehicle fell into the ditch, the three German soldiers couldn't be pulled out fast enough," he said.

The casualties bring the total of German deaths in Afghanistan to 35.
Taliban fighters have become increasingly active in a region around Kunduz known as Char Dara, where Tuesday's attack took place. Recent weeks have seen numerous extended firefights between the Taliban and Afghan troops. German patrols have likewise come under frequent fire.

Additionally, increased Taliban presence has resulted in the closure of numerous girls\\\\\' schools in the region. Many parents have stopped sending their children to classes in response to threatening Taliban notes -- so-called "night letters" -- posted on the front doors of regional schools.
The Bundeswehr has recently increased its presence in Char Dara. A high-ranking member of the Afghan secret service NDS spoke to SPIEGEL ONLINE of firefights on Tuesday morning prior to the deadly incident. A Defense Ministry spokesman in Berlin said that a number of soldiers were injured in the fighting, but couldn't say if they were Afghan or German.
Jung said that the German mission in Afghanistan would carry on despite the increasing number of casualties. "The operation in Afghanistan must continue," he said.

With reporting by Matthias Gebauer
Fighting the Taliban: Three German Soldiers Killed in Afghanistan - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

Too bad, now they can´t fritter away their extra pays anymore.
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What did he expected???

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Tuesday morning we are going to make a sneak attack. Please stay alert.

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What did he expected???

"Salam akhi! ey wie geht es dir???

Tuesday morning we are going to make a sneak attack. Please stay alert.

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Well, it is in tone with masquerading wars as police raids: as if the world were already a whole political entity and resisting nationalists bandits.
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Even though I kinda feel sorry for these dumb imperialist enforcers, I think it's for the better if all "western" militaries become bogged down in increasing numbers of wars, this will after all result in less enforcers to shoot their own people in the back if revolutions start in Europe.

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Yes because the wise thing to do when you are fighting a guerrilla war against a superior enemy is to face the foe in the field.

The pope's campaign against crossbows in the middle ages comes to mind.
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Even though I kinda feel sorry for these dumb imperialist enforcers, I think it's for the better if all "western" militaries become bogged down in increasing numbers of wars, this will after all result in less enforcers to shoot their own people in the back if revolutions start in Europe.
I don't really share your enthusiasm. Given the current intellectual trends those won't be counter-revolutions but revolutions in the leftist sense.
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I don't really share your enthusiasm. Given the current intellectual trends those won't be counter-revolutions but revolutions in the leftist sense.
Im not enthusiastic either, but in such a case it's our duty to crush the corrupt leftists and usher in the counter-revolution.

Besides in a revolution that breaks out due to mass-immigration, high taxes and government over-regulation/corruption, nationalism is far more in touch with the people than any leftisms.

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Yes because the wise thing to do when you are fighting a guerrilla war against a superior enemy is to face the foe in the field.

The pope's campaign against crossbows in the middle ages comes to mind.

Are you sure they were so willing to fight this war?

I feel we have lost some good lives instead, for nothing.
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Are you sure they were so willing to fight this war?
The majority probably were, the soldiers who are willing to become imperialist enforcers in Afghanistan are either so brainwashed that they believe the terrorist threat is real (which means they would fire on us as well if we were deemed "terrorists", which we more or less are already according to the state and it's allies), or they are in it for money and enjoyment (note that these groups may overlap).

These people would as I have mentioned many times before be more than glad to fill the streets with our corpses as long as their masters continue to pay for their services.

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Some of them sees their work as "defending their country", but if they were really doing that they would defend us against the invaders in their homelands instead of supporting imperialism abroad, I disagree.
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