Israel blames Russian rocket launchers for its setbacks in Lebanon

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

I remember that there were "international" jihadists in Bosnia. In Kosovo too?

Yes. But since Kosovo was not nearly as bloody as Bosnia and lasted less there weren't alot of international jihadists.

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by Aptrgangr

I looked at the war Israel vs. Hizbullah with interest, and I also know not everything cooked hot is eaten this hot so to speak, many of the warcrimes are inventions having the goal to blame Israel alone.

I watched the video at aish.com and was unimpressed. If these small scale errors or frauds are the best the pro-Israeli crowd can do then they have a very weak case. I noticed "Little Green Footballs" was involved. They are nutcases pure and simple in my opinion.

Is your preference for Israel over Lebanon partly influenced by Muslim immigration to Europe?

[Aptrgangr]

Originally Posted by prometheus

Yankee Judaea keeps the whole Europe under its occupation as well.

Neither Yankees nor Jews are responsible for the fact most parts of Europe are inhabitated by people who are as pathetic as they are decadent, either purposefully accept their uprooting or watching it indifferently.

Originally Posted by A Few Acres of Snow

I watched the video at aish.com and was unimpressed. If these small scale errors or frauds are the best the pro-Israeli crowd can do then they have a very weak case. I noticed "Little Green Footballs" was involved. They are nutcases pure and simple in my opinion.

Well, I am "impressed" there are still people around claiming Israel resp. the Jews are dominating our media in order to manipulate our opinions and make us more friendly towards Israel. I do not say there are no pro-Israel reports at all, but most reports here are very critical, in some cases even hostile towards Israel. When you look around in news articles or listen to people on the streets you surely will hear people are anything but fond of Israel.
Islamic states see sympathy turning against Israel

Originally Posted by A Few Acres of Snow

Is your preference for Israel over Lebanon partly influenced by Muslim immigration to Europe?

What preference are you referring to?
I am no NS, I simply can not verify why the destruction of Israel should be desireable for us. One folk, one nation, I do not see any reason why Israel should not be the nation for Jews - like Gaza and West-Bank must be the nation for the Palestinians, without any Israeli occupation.
True, my personal experiences with Muslims influenced my political opinion much.

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by Aptrgangr

Well, I am "impressed" there are still people around claiming Israel resp. the Jews are dominating our media in order to manipulate our opinions and make us more friendly towards Israel. I do not say there are no pro-Israel reports at all, but most reports here are very critical, in some cases even hostile towards Israel. When you look around in news articles or listen to people on the streets you surely will hear people are anything but fond of Israel.
Islamic states see sympathy turning against Israel

Do you see Israel as an ally in the fight against Islamism in Europe?

Originally Posted by Aptrgangr

What preference are you referring to?
I am no NS, I simply can not verify why the destruction of Israel should be desireable for us. One folk, one nation, I do not see any reason why Israel should not be the nation for Jews - like Gaza and West-Bank must be the nation for the Palestinians, without any Israeli occupation.
True, my personal experiences with Muslims influenced my political opinion much.

There is surely some middle ground between the destruction of Israel and the current situation in which the EU gives a diplomatic green light and the US gives almost unlimited financial and military resources to Israel so that it can terrorize and kill its Arab neighbours whenever it wishes.

[Aptrgangr]

Originally Posted by A Few Acres of Snow

Do you see Israel as an ally in the fight against Islamism in Europe?

There is no Islamism, this term was invented by multiculturalists in order to delude us and make us believe Islam was a peaceful religion and these militants just a bunch of looneys thet abuse Islam for their purposes.
Actually no European state is fighting Islam. All are supporting it.
I distrust the "Judeo-Christian culture and concept of democracy", that's why I am not into an alliance with them.

Originally Posted by A Few Acres of Snow

There is surely some middle ground between the destruction of Israel and the current situation in which the EU gives a diplomatic green light and the US gives almost unlimited financial and military resources to Israel so that it can terrorize and kill its Arab neighbours whenever it wishes.

Please elaborate on this middle ground you mention.
EU surely does not give green light to Israeli actions, there is even a boycot for products that were produced in the occupied West-Bank. In fact relations between
EU and Israel are not the best, FRG for example cancelled the co-operation in matters of tank developement.
It is true, USA's fundings for Israel are enormous, it also blocks UN resolutions that demand Israel's withdrawal from the occupied territories. Arabs terrozire enough, I do not understand any whining about Israel's attacks since most Muslims murdered were killed by other Muslims. The problems Muslims are into are in fact homemade, it is just much more comfortable to point with the finger to someone to blame.

[Errigal]

Would you have preferred Germany going ahead with the tank contract with Israel?

[Lucas Corso]

Originally Posted by prometheus

And the whole Israeli-Yankee Judaean pressure (and an eventual war) against Iran is just a preparation for the war against Russia, which is planned in future (Polish-Czech rocket defense systems being a clear sign for that).

For now they're trying to encircle Russia in any way, then they'll try a Colour revolution...

[Aptrgangr]

Originally Posted by A Few Acres of Snow

Would you have preferred Germany going ahead with the tank contract with Israel?

Are you happy Milan anti-tank missiles were used to shoot down Israeli tanks? In general I am against any export of weapons and military technology like I strictly oppose any military involvments of German troops outside of our borders.
USA and Israel have supplied weapons and military spare parts to Muslims for years, the problem is these can be used against us now.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Aptrgangr

Are you happy Milan anti-tank missiles were used to shoot down Israeli tanks?

Milan? I've shot one of those. If I recall correctly, they are French.

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Milan? I've shot one of those. If I recall correctly, they are French.

Franco-Germans actually. And I am rather happy they were used to destroy Israeli tanks. At least they are more useful than here...

Originally Posted by Aptrgangr

Hizbullah, compared with PLO, does not fight any occupation.

Shebaa farms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But you probably prefer the Hebrew version :

חוות שבע×? - ויקיפדיה

Anyway Hizbullah's fight against Israel is not much about Shebaa farms, rather about Arab solidarity against a foreign occupation. If you remember well the Lebanon war last summer, Hizbullah opened a second front against Israel while Tsahal was trying to get rid of the Hamas in Gaza bank.
What if the Turks created a state in Bade-Wurtemberg and the French went to fight it along with the Germans ? Ok, we would not fight any occupation, unlike Germany. It would just be European solidarity.

[Aptrgangr]

Originally Posted by Theobald

Franco-Germans actually. And I am rather happy they were used to destroy Israeli tanks. At least they are more useful than here...

Can you elaborate on what benefit you see in destroyed Israeli tanks and why these weapons are more useful overthere than here?

Originally Posted by Theobald

Shebaa farms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
But you probably prefer the Hebrew version :
חוות שבע×? - ויקיפדיה

Why should I prefer the עברית version? I do not speak עברית, but maybe learning it would be a greater benefit for me than learning French.

Originally Posted by Theobald

Anyway Hizbullah's fight against Israel is not much about Shebaa farms, rather about Arab solidarity against a foreign occupation.

Hizbullah's fight against Israel is surely not about the Shebaa, it is more about the destruction of Israel.
You surely have an answer for the question why Arabs rather want to live in Israel than in e.g. Jordan.

Originally Posted by Theobald

If you remember well the Lebanon war last summer, Hizbullah opened a second front against Israel while Tsahal was trying to get rid of the Hamas in Gaza bank.

And they payed a bloody price without achieveing anything.

Originally Posted by Theobald

What if the Turks created a state in Bade-Wurtemberg and the French went to fight it along with the Germans ? Ok, we would not fight any occupation, unlike Germany.

I would lean back and watch how the Turks add Alsace-Lorraine to their state in Baden-Württemberg.

Originally Posted by Theobald

It would just be European solidarity.

Sure.

Anyway, I am not convinced supporting any Muslim organization would be of any benefit for us, our problem is not Israel but our own weakness and degeneracy.

[Franze]

In Lebanon thousand of christians have left their land for the Hizbollah pressure and Israel isn´t guilty, in addition, the unique good movement in Lebanon, the Christian Falange was supported by Israel, the christian dream in Lebanon was destroyed by Hizbollah and Syria.
Israel, of course, don´t treat very well the christians like in Nazareth, they were stoned by druses and the catholic goods and churches are from Israel expropiated by Ben Gurion.
Israel is the lesser of two evils in the zone, and I don´t support their wars in Iraq, Iran and others, I recognize that I supported Iraq but I am mistaken.
Respect Hizbollah, an organisation paid and trained by the islamic republic of Iran and they are the responsible of 241 american soldiers killed and 60 french in addition of many christian lebaneses in 80s aren´t a good movement.

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Peter

In Lebanon thousand of christians have left their land for the Hizbollah pressure and Israel isn´t guilty, in addition, the unique good movement in Lebanon, the Christian Falange was supported by Israel, the christian dream in Lebanon was destroyed by Hizbollah and Syria.
Israel, of course, don´t treat very well the christians like in Nazareth, they were stoned by druses and the catholic goods and churches are from Israel expropiated by Ben Gurion.
Israel is the lesser of two evils in the zone, and I don´t support their wars in Iraq, Iran and others, I recognize that I supported Iraq but I am mistaken.
Respect Hizbollah, an organisation paid and trained by the islamic republic of Iran and they are the responsible of 241 american soldiers killed and 60 french in addition of many christian lebaneses in 80s aren´t a good movement.

It wasn't destroyed by Syria. Syria is a haven for Christians from the Middle-East. But I agree Hizbollah is a terrible movement.

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

I remember that there were "international" jihadists in Bosnia. In Kosovo too?

I found this article. Apparently Wahhabi's have been in Kosovo since the early 1990s and they are ready for a rebellion ahead of the status show down. It may either be a rebellion for independence or some kind of violent iran style revolution once independence is achieved,

B92, Priština: Wahhabis in Kosovo Since the Early 1990\'s



19 March 2007 18:08 Source: Tanjug

PRIŠTINA -- Albanian media in Kosovo report today the Wahhabis have been active in the province since the early 1990’s. The reports claim that the radical Islamic sect has 30 religious schools in Kosovo, adding that their activity presents the Albanian community’s identity with “a serious chal