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Romanians:


Ukrainians:
Asiatic origins of Ukrainians

Russians:





Greeks:


See also:
http://dienekes.angeltowns.net/texts...morphological/

Bulgarians:


Hungarians:


Tartars:



Czechs:







etc. from Coon:

Text: The Pontic Mediterraneans

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Neither of above examples of Russian types is Pontid.
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Neither of above examples of Russian types is Pontid.
That was basically stated by V. V. Bunak and quoted by Dienekes Pontikos.

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They are examples of the Northern Pontic type, which has nothing to do with the Pontid type.

The Northern Pontic type is equivalent to the (Central) Eastern European type.
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Two of the most beautifull examples of Pontid i can report






(yes, Nastassja kinsi isn't a "pure" type)


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Btw, Mila is not Ukrainian. Her farther is Serbian and her mother is Russian.

And she's not Pontid.
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Btw, Mila is not Ukrainian. Her farther is Serbian and her mother is Russian.

And she's not Pontid.

I've never said she is Ukrainian. Linus has said it (probably influenced by the fact she was born in Kiev).

About the Pontid, why not, Ross ? She seems rather pontid to my eyes.
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I did not say that it was you who said that she was Ukrainian :-)

As for her being Pontid... she's a bit too robust.
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As for her being Pontid... she's a bit too robust.

What do you think, then ?
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My fault but she was born in Kiev.

Date of Birth: December 17, 1975.
Hair Color: Light brown.
Eye Color: Blue.
Height: (cm) 174 (ft/in) 5' 8½".

Her build is very leptosomic:
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Two of the most beautifull examples of Pontid i can report
This Czech model as well. Presence of this type nowadays should be connected with debrachycephalization trend. They'd make perfect Dinarids if they were brachycephalic.



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Btw, Milan Baroš isn't Hungarian even though his surname does hint that. Baroš is a nick name of Bartoloměj, clearly Czech. I wouldn't say he's Pontid either, maybe westalpine.
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Btw, Milan Baroš isn't Hungarian even though his surname does hint that. Baroš is a nick name of Bartoloměj, clearly Czech. I wouldn't say he's Pontid either, maybe westalpine.
I read that he's half-Hungarian half-Czech on Dodona.

Westalpinid? It should be the combination of Atlanto-Mediterranid and Osteuropid/Baltic admixture (slightly folded eyes).

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Btw, Mila is not Ukrainian. Her farther is Serbian and her mother is Russian.

And she's not Pontid.
She considers herself to be Ukranian and she is Pontid...classic example in fact.

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I wouldn't say he's Pontid either, maybe westalpine.
Carpathid maybe?
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What do they have in common?
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What do they have in common?
- Mediterranean affinity
- mesocephaly
- very long face
- stronger angularity than East-Nordids and Osteuropids
- medium to tall
- Dinaroid admixture
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The Northern Pontic type is a depigmented variety of the Pontic type and belongs to the Indo-Mediterranean race. It does _not_ belong to the Central Eastern European race.

Понтийский тип индо-средиземноморской расы, или понтийская раса, черноморский или восточносредиземноморский тип - распространен среди народов побережья Черного моря, например, адыгейцев и южных русских. Отличается от более южного каспийского типа несколько более крупными размерами, а также повышенным процентом опущенного кончика носа и светлых глаз.

Translation:

The Pontic type of the Indo-Mediterranean race, or Pontic race, Black Sea or Eastern Mediterranean type - is extended among the peoples of the coast of the Black sea, for example, of Adygei and South Russians. Somewhat in terms of larger sizes, and also in terms of increased percentage of the omitted (?) tip of the nose and light eyes it is different from the more southern Caspian type.

Северопонтийский тип европеоидной расы - по В.В. Бунаку северный вариант понтийского типа, отличающийся от южного более светлой пигментацией.

Translation:

The Northern Pontic type of the Europeoid race - according to Bunak, the northern variety of the Pontic type, differing from the southern one by lighter pigmentation."

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The Northern Pontic type is a depigmented variety of the Pontic type and belongs to the Indo-Mediterranean race. It does _not_ belong to the Central Eastern European race.
That's what authors of "Origins and ethnic history of the Russian people" write about early works (1932) of V.V. Bunak:

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In the same group of Northern Pontic types... the author [V.V. Bunak] puts also the Central Russian (Eastern European) type.

Origins and ethnic history of the Russian people//Under revision of V.V. Bunak. Moscow. 1965. P. 14
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