Super-HIV man had sex with 100 men

[Milesian]

http://www.narth.com/docs/superhiv.html

February 25, 2005 - New York health officials are continuing to express alarm about a man who was diagnosed recently with a new HIV strain that becomes full-blown AIDS in months, not years.

Dr. David Ho of the Aaron Diamond AIDS Research Center in Manhattan says the man "participated in wild orgies fueled by crystal meth before coming sick.

The new HIV strain is resistant to 19 out of the 20 antiviral drugs used to combat AIDS.

[Gil]

If the man is indeed a walking "Black Plague" and he was diagnosed a gallopant disease why wasn't he imediately caught and put in quarantine? No, wait, let me guess, he has "rights".... yeah, the right to propagate a plague, the right to destroy yet more lives.... damn....

[Agrippa]

Originally Posted by Manji

If the man is indeed a walking "Black Plague" and he was diagnosed a gallopant disease why wasn't he imediately caught and put in quarantine? No, wait, let me guess, he has "rights".... yeah, the right to propagate a plague, the right to destroy yet more lives.... damn....

If that would have been done we wouldnt have an AIDS plague at all since one of the first spreaders of the disease (out of Africa) was a homosexual flight attendant who spread it even after he knew that many of his "partners" were already sick or dead. He for himself lived quite long after his infection and was "international", you can imagine how he spread it in all the gay clubs and with boys throughout his life...
At this point getting him and 200 others would have saved millions. Such thought are "politically incorrect" now, but at this time, before this whole gay tolerance, individual rights and "save sex is good no matter with whom and why" came up, many people thought about strict measures.
Times changed and everything is getting much worse since the 1990's...

[Zyklop]

It mostly only affects gays, junkies and multiculturalists, so who cares?

[Gil]

ZYklop: I think the problem is that the disease is spreading to people who are completely innocent. Why? Blood transfusions, for example, which have been donated by HIV infected people who nevertheless are not examined and by junkies who sting innocent people with infected needles.
My answer would be to put them all together lined against a wall and shoot them. It's a damn plague, and it cannot be stopped unless it is contained.

[Faísca]

Originally Posted by Manji

ZYklop: I think the problem is that the disease is spreading to people who are completely innocent. Why? Blood transfusions, for example, which have been donated by HIV infected people who nevertheless are not examined and by junkies who sting innocent people with infected needles.
My answer would be to put them all together lined against a wall and shoot them. It's a damn plague, and it cannot be stopped unless it is contained.

Well, in my opinion, there is no need to shoot them. One could do to them the same we usually do with individuals who are dangerous to the society, prison, or on a more politically correct note, quarantine.

[Zyklop]

Originally Posted by Manji

ZYklop: I think the problem is that the disease is spreading to people who are completely innocent. Why? Blood transfusions, for example, which have been donated by HIV infected people who nevertheless are not examined and by junkies who sting innocent people with infected needles.

You are right, of course, but how high is the percentage of innocents among HIV infected people? More than 5%? Definitely not enough for me to attach one of these AIDS ribbons.

[Agrippa]

Originally Posted by Zyklop

You are right, of course, but how high is the percentage of innocents among HIV infected people? More than 5%? Definitely not enough for me to attach one of these AIDS ribbons.

It might be somewhat irresponsible to have sexual contacts without a condom, but seriously, if peope with just lets say 3 normal sexual contacts have the bad luck to get to someone infected, they are not innocent but hardy deserve that disease...
Anyway, infected should be at least branded, maybe on an intime area of the body, but so that they can't spread the disease to more people without telling someone the truth. If the situation would be more severe, tests could be made by the state and if necessary with force.

[Gil]

Johannes: yes, quarantine seems to be the best solution to the problem, the thing is, it's, according to "some", un-ethical and agains't their "rights". TO me, the moment they contract the disease and are willingfully spreading it they now longer have rights but the right to live, and even so submitted to certain conditions.

[Agrippa]

Originally Posted by Manji

Johannes: yes, quarantine seems to be the best solution to the problem, the thing is, it's, according to "some", un-ethical and agains't their "rights". TO me, the moment they contract the disease and are willingfully spreading it they now longer have rights but the right to live, and even so submitted to certain conditions.

Yes, spreading it without measures to prevent it or even willingly is a criminal assault. Its like poisening or directly hurting, even killing someone.

[Faísca]

Originally Posted by Manji

Johannes: yes, quarantine seems to be the best solution to the problem, the thing is, it's, according to "some", un-ethical and agains't their "rights". TO me, the moment they contract the disease and are willingfully spreading it they now longer have rights but the right to live, and even so submitted to certain conditions.

With that I agree.
Metaphorically speaking, I quote the following:

Whosoever shall shed man's blood, his blood shall be shed
Genesis 9:6

[Milesian]

Originally Posted by Agrippa

If that would have been done we wouldnt have an AIDS plague at all since one of the first spreaders of the disease (out of Africa) was a homosexual flight attendant who spread it even after he knew that many of his "partners" were already sick or dead.

Not suprising.
A while ago there was reports that homosexuals were deliberately trying to contract HIV because to have it was "Gay Chic". Lunacy.

Of course, we don't have to spend billions on AIDS research while millions of people continue to die. We already have the answer and it's completely free.
Living in monogamous relationships. Eliminate promiscuity.
I know many people in the modern world would be horrified by that suggestion but really AIDS and other STD could be theoretically eliminated in a single generation (not to mention reduce several other problems in addition). I think that would be a nice gift to give our children and future descendents, but perhaps some people might disgree with me. I think it's a worthwhile sacrifice though.

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by Milesian

Not suprising.
A while ago there was reports that homosexuals were deliberately trying to contract HIV because to have it was "Gay Chic". Lunacy.

Hmm, there is/was the same "wave" here among homosexuals. Some sick guys who "felt guilty of being healthy" after their testimonies...


I agree, they should have been gathered and kept away from the healthy population, for the good of the community.

More than 20 years ago, a french "PI" politician had declared that those peoples should be put in quarantine, he had proposed to open what is called "sidatoriums" (after french word sida -aids- and sanatorium), but nobody payed attention to sida at that time and "sidatoriums" were highly criticized by the "tolerance party".
"Ironicaly", what had been seen at that time as an "inhuman solution" was created 10 years later, and "sidatoriums" are now a reality in France... but much too late.

It could be done yet imo, but with a real vonlunteer politics, not late measure.

[Ferran]

Originally Posted by Agrippa

If that would have been done we wouldnt have an AIDS plague at all since one of the first spreaders of the disease (out of Africa) was a homosexual flight attendant who spread it even after he knew that many of his "partners" were already sick or dead.

There is a film from 1993, entitled "And the Band Played On", which shows with great fidelity how it took place, starts with the initial investigations of virus identification, also talks about the opposition of the American government to announce it in the media when it already had a clear definition, and finally, the social alarm produced when it was made public. In some stretch of the beggining also makes an affirmation about who was the direct responsible of the first contagions in America (a client of public Gay baths) and which were the first attemps to stop its advance (Institut Pasteur, etc). Very interesting film I must say.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106273/

[anaktas]

I think this "man" should be immediately shot. If not, may I suggest torturing him to death? He would deserve that.
He knew he was infected, right?