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Law Dura Lex sed Lex? The organisation of the legal system in Europe and its implications on people and society.

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It depends on the cannabis plant, if it's indica or sativa. They affect you in different ways. Indica gives a more sleepy type of stone. Sativa produce a more energetic high. There are many strains that are crosses of these plants.

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How can we be sure it was because of cannabis? What do you mean with their life getting destroyed?

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I think I can imagine what you mean. I'm not sure so could you please elaborate on the difference between cigar and cigarette smokers. There are of course those who smoke both.

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With respect to cigarettes one should also not forget that there is a huge difference between cigars and cigarettes. As there is in cigar smokers and cigarette smokers.
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How can we be sure it was because of cannabis?
Because I saw a change before and after they started smoking cannabis on a regular basis.

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What do you mean with their life getting destroyed?
Carnyx summed it up very well :

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Demotivation, loss of Memory, difficulties to learn, lack of caution, relational problems, focus on one interest (weed), apathy, depression, psychics issues, schyzophrenia, etc.
Very regular cannabis users (of course I don't mean the guy who smokes once a week) generally end up stopping their studies, they don't want and/or can't work (demotivation, apathy), sometimes expeled from the family home because their parents can't stand them anymore (or at least they have important problems with them), ... Many of them start dealing drugs as well as this is the only way to buy their own cannabis and end up in jail or in a cemetery; others live thanks to the social system, or in the street without a home. This is a very common phenomenon among "White Trash" people.
Add to this that they generally not only use cannabis, but also high quantities of alcohol and often "hard" drugs such as heroin or crack (classic cocaine is more common among successful people).
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I think I can imagine what you mean. I'm not sure so could you please elaborate on the difference between cigar and cigarette smokers. There are of course those who smoke both.
Cigar smokers do not inhalate the smoke into their lungs, and they are much less regular in that they usually smoke a cigar a day or two, at most.

Apart from that, and unlike cigarettes, cigars do not contain any of the many chemical additives that cigarettes contain. They are plain tobacco leaves.
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What are the best sites against canabis and the other drugs?

Cannabis is claimed to have beneficial effects in treating chronic diseases such as AIDS and multiple sclerosis. The main psychoactive ingredient in cannabis is delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), which is available legally as a prescribed drug in capsule form. In 1998 US researchers found that THC targets the same pain centres in the brain that morphine does, proving its usefulness in pain relief, and in November 1998, cannabis was legalized for medical use in six US states. Canada approved legislation for widespread medical use in August 2001.

The British Medical Research Council approved a three-year study, commencing in December 1999, to assess the benefits of cannabis in alleviating some of the symptoms of multiple sclerosis. In October 2001, the British government put forward a proposal to reclassify cannabis from a Class B drug to a Class C drug. As such a Class C drug possession would carry less severe penalties.


A report released in March 1999 by the Institute of Medicine in the USA said that cannabis should be clinically tested because it helps fight pain and nausea. A US study involving 3,882 people who had survived heart attacks revealed that smoking cannabis may increase the risk of a heart attack, by as much as five times for an hour after smoking. The risk may increase because cannabis increases the heart rate by about 40 beats a minute.


From Canabis - Hutchinson encyclopedia article about Canabis

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after reading the last post, I finally made up my mind: I am giving up health insurance and I am going to grow big quanities of cannabis...
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The problem of canabis is not simple - the last my post stressed that every poisson could be used for treatment in necessary amounts, but if the user is ...

The roots of stupid canabis usage are much more deep...I think this is kind of escape from world or narrow surrounding problems...
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Now, after discussion we could start discuss the demand text:
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We demand to stop canabis legalisation, becouse of lots societies and communities health and criminal problems connected to the canabis usage.

What is Your opinion?
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I am personally in favour of Cannabis legalization. The drugs possible harmful effects don't even get close to the damage that alcohol can do. Secondly, criminalization of the drug simply does not work. I have finished school this year and know out of experience that despite its illegality Cannabis is easier to get than ever. It is probably easier for an under 18 - year old to get weed in countries having prohibited it, than in the Netherlands.
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And we smoked crushed dried leaves of eucaliptus, rolled on toilette paper. That was when I was in boarding school.
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